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(01-27-2026, 08:39 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: here is link to video it is obviously fake lrad is not however
https://x.com/KimKatieUSA/status/2016005705657156067
Man, you and I are having communication issues
I know LRAD isn't fake, Ive watched videos on many NEW AGE crowd suppression tech back during the earlier 2018-19 riots UB.
Not to mention, generally, quickish clickbait videos are bogus; it's the subject matter that interests me...
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01-27-2026, 09:11 AM
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(01-27-2026, 08:50 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Man, you and I are having communication issues
I know LRAD isn't fake, Ive watched videos on many NEW AGE crowd suppression tech back during the earlier 2018-19 riots UB.
Not to mention, generally, quickish clickbait videos are bogus; it's the subject matter that interests me...
lol yeah you're right about comm
because i didn't mean to imply that you thought lrad was fake that didnt even cross my mind
i meant it was real that it was at the minnesota
in fact i am sure i saw a pic of a lrad device on top of a police van that they trotted out for the hotel riots
i'll see if i can find it
edit: okay here — unverified:
no video or reliable reports of it being utilized that i've seen though
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(01-27-2026, 09:11 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: lol yeah you're right about comm
because i didn't mean to imply that you thought lrad was fake that didnt even cross my mind
i meant it was real that it was at the minnesota
in fact i am sure i saw a pic of a lrad device on top of a police van that they trotted out for the hotel riots
i'll see if i can find it
edit: okay here — unverified:
no video or reliable reports of it being utilized that i've seen though
Its on me I shouldn't post when I have other stuff to do
It all fits in, though Walz's, Frey's, and Ilihan's responses and rhetoric make it worse. I don't blame them for deploying whatever
crowd control tech, this type of continuing incidences hurt foot traffic and the local economy.
This does not excuse the mistakes that the LEOs made.
There's enough blame for all involved
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(01-27-2026, 05:46 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: although note this is border patrol not ice
but the optics of it are a big dub for the anarchists; they have shown that if they obstruct and provoke violence, reactionary or accidental, it doesn't matter, they can claim a 'win'
They think they got their W because they got another martyr.
The problem is, again, their martyr wasn’t a person of color.
They can’t play their racist card without a minority martyr.
Only half a W.
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(01-27-2026, 06:44 AM)andy06shake Wrote: To be perfectly honest, im not sure what the solution is.
Your nation seems to be getting dangerously close to the edge.
Imho, cutting federal funding will only exacerbate the situation.
Must press on through, kind of up to my elbows here.
Close to the edge?
Some fools are acting like this is some kind of seminal moment.
It’s not.
It’s just a bunch of Minnesota idiots mad and doing a bunch of stupid shit because ICE wants to deport illegal alien child molesters and rapists.
Also, how will cutting federal funding for illegals exacerbate the situation?
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01-27-2026, 10:07 AM
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(01-27-2026, 08:43 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: At the end of the day, there just should have been more honesty about what happened. I think it’s clear there was a miscommunication/miscalculation.
Rather than try to be transparent about what happened, or give it time until they could get an accurate picture… Officials were willing to call a VA ICU nurse a domestic terrorist with zero evidence he had any intention to harm agents. The only evidence they and their base cling to is “resisting”. Which, I’m not sure, I’ve never been in the situation, but I imagine if you’re getting pepper sprayed and beat in the head you might put your hands out instinctively to protect yourself.
I wouldn’t have put myself in his position. I don’t even think it was smart. Hell, he may have been charged with some crimes from the incident.
But there is no evidence he was a domestic terrorist. There are narratives by officials that challenge what people saw with their eyes. And at the end of the day, they and their base their base are trying to tell you he deserved to be mag dumped on face down with his hands out. Thats the pitch.
Best case scenario for all involved is the admin loses house at midterms which futures have at a 75-80% chance (not good either considering the left is fragmented with zero plan or vision).
Worst case is we continue our track record of electing horrible liars who promise one tho thing in a campaign and deliver to their donors. They’ll continue to say things like carrying a gun and extra mags is only something criminals do. Apparently it got added to the social contract by the right too recently, I thought that was one of the issues on the left. And I’m sure future admins will love pointing out that anyone challenging a political stance is a domestic terrorist.
Disingenuous once again.
There are many facts that point to him possibly being a domestic terrorist which have been gone over in this very thread many many times.
Strange you missed them.
Pretti concealed carrying by itself isn’t evidence of anything.
The red flag here is that he never concealed carried his weapon until this particular outing.(his family confirms) https://coloradosun.com/2026/01/24/color...ot-killed/
He wasn’t even at a protest because there wasn’t a protest where he was during the time he was there. The protest there started after he was ventilated.
He was working with other activist obstructionists impeding the cops.(video shows him standing in the middle of the street attempting to direct cars into an active law enforcement operation)
Now add to that the fact he also chose to bring three magazines, but no drivers license and no concealed carry permit. (Those are requirements to conceal carry legally)
Then he puts his hands on a cop.
He set himself up for what he got.
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(01-26-2026, 12:52 PM)Knows Wrote: The gun that came loose from an ICE officer wasn't the same type of gun FAFO had in his holster. 
Got any proof of that? As there's many videos of the ICE agent removing the pistol from his holster.
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(01-27-2026, 10:07 AM)Vermilion Wrote: Disingenuous once again.
There are many facts that point to him possibly being a domestic terrorist which have been gone over in this very thread many many times.
Strange you missed them.
Pretti concealed carrying by itself isn’t evidence of anything.
The red flag here is that he never concealed carried his weapon until this particular outing.(his family confirms) https://coloradosun.com/2026/01/24/color...ot-killed/
He wasn’t even at a protest because there wasn’t a protest where he was during the time he was there. The protest there started after he was ventilated.
He was working with other activist obstructionists impeding the cops.(video shows him standing in the middle of the street attempting to direct cars into an active law enforcement operation)
Now add to that the fact he also chose to bring three magazines, but no drivers license and no concealed carry permit. (Those are requirements to conceal carry legally)
Then he puts his hands on a cop.
He set himself up for what he got.
You just described crimes for obstruction and resisting arrest.
He had plenty of opportunity to pull the weapon but never did. “Putting his hands” on an officer after he got pepper sprayed and struck. In reality though, it looked like he was defensively trying to prevent being struck more. I didn’t see him strike an officer once.
Trying to equate that to domestic terrorism is just such a stretch. Maybe he could have been charged with a crime, we’ll never know.
It’s your right to take everything the officials said at face value. I can’t stop you and simply disagree with you. I just think the “case” you made with random statements from people would be weak as hell if it was scrutinized in a court of law. It’s really hard to get terrorism charges, and you don’t just get them from trying to prevent agents/officers from beating the shit out of you.
Again, you’re right to believe whatever you want. I’m sure in a year we’ll see threads on how the midterm elections were stolen instead of any introspection on how that masses viewed certain events.
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01-27-2026, 10:45 AM
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(01-27-2026, 10:27 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: You just described crimes for obstruction and resisting arrest.
He had plenty of opportunity to pull the weapon but never did. “Putting his hands” on an officer after he got pepper sprayed and struck. In reality though, it looked like he was defensively trying to prevent being struck more. I didn’t see him strike an officer once.
Trying to equate that to domestic terrorism is just such a stretch. Maybe he could have been charged with a crime, we’ll never know.
It’s your right to take everything the officials said at face value. I can’t stop you and simply disagree with you. I just think the “case” you made with random statements from people would be weak as hell if it was scrutinized in a court of law. It’s really hard to get terrorism charges, and you don’t just get them from trying to prevent agents/officers from beating the shit out of you.
Again, you’re right to believe whatever you want. I’m sure in a year we’ll see threads on how the midterm elections were stolen instead of any introspection on how that masses viewed certain events.
At least we can agree he was there only to obstruct the cops who were enforcing bipartisan immigration laws.
Obstructing to push a political ideology.
Add to that…
Armed.
Violently putting hands on cops.
Violently resisting arrest.
Here’s something you may not know.
That building where the shooting happened, 2614 Nicollet, is home to 184 NPI’s, national provider identification number.
Those are healthcare organizations taking money from the government.
11,000 square foot office with 184 “health providers”?
Do you think that’s normal?
Also, three doors down from that fraud mall, 2628 Nicollet, is home to three child daycare centers.
Owner’s name: Siman Aden
Siman Aden is also owner of the “Quality Learing Center” that was made famous for fraud.
Another coincidence huh?
https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/2015185578388754862
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(01-26-2026, 04:59 PM)David64 Wrote: Hmm. Wonder where the Left got that tactic from.
“Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth” - Joseph Goebbels
It's funny you say Goebbels...
Quote: Goebbels owed his new appointment to the prudent choice he made in a conflict between Gregor Strasser, representing the “left-wing” anticapitalist faction of the NSDAP, and the “right-wing” party leader, Hitler....
After the Nazis seized power, Goebbels took control of the national propaganda machinery. A National Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda was created for him.....
Goebbels’s mastery of propaganda was particularly apparent after Germany’s defeats in Stalingrad and Africa. Goebbels did not falsify the facts of the prevailing situation. On the contrary, the main thrust of his propaganda—which he carried on personally and without respite in the press and over the radio
He became the right-wing chief propagandist for the Nazi party.
I can see comparisons between this shooting, the Trump Administration attempting to weaponize this shooting and demonize Alex Pertti, and as you pointed out Goebbels use of propaganda
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