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3rd shooting in Minnesota.
(01-25-2026, 01:36 PM)Kurokage Wrote: I was interfered with by ICE agents for recording them and for helping the attacked woman stand, he was then pushed and shoved.

So that's the death penalty now??

Apparently, he thought his life was worth it.
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(01-25-2026, 01:32 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Actually, I was equating the armed protestor(s) but you already knew that.



Wait. I’m confused.

He wasn’t rioting like you are always carrying on about?
(01-25-2026, 01:37 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Apparently, he thought his life was worth it.



Maybe.

Maybe he thought hers was.
(01-25-2026, 01:32 PM)Solvedit Wrote: So it takes true expertise to question why six agents couldn't control a rather skinny suspect?  There were seemingly three or four within reach of him.  Can he shoot you if you control his arms?

He was being combative and was armed.

Those are facts that cannot be disputed.

When you are armed and combative towards federal agents, you are putting your life on the line as well as everyone around you.
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(01-25-2026, 01:39 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Wait. I’m confused.

He wasn’t rioting like you are always carrying on about?


He was interfering with federal agents.

You want to make him a saint?

Go for it.

But I think he got what he wanted.
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(01-25-2026, 01:41 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: He was being combative and was armed.

Those are facts that cannot be disputed.

When you are armed and combative towards federal agents, you are putting your life on the line as well as everyone around you.


Good.

Im glad we got this outta the way for the next few dozen American deaths.

Precedent and all.
(01-25-2026, 01:19 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: A school shooter is legally carrying a firearm, until he starts breaking the law.

A school shooter implies they shot their gun at a school.

This guy had his hands up. So how is someone comparable to a school shooter if they never even draw their weapon?

Usually people are innocent until proven guilty. Yet Bovino said in a presser the guy “wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.” If that is the case, why didn't he do it? Why would someone wait until they're face down with several people holding them down to try and do maximum damage? That would be minimum damage at best before your assisted suicide.

So why is it that people can decide his guilt within hours, with no evidence he had intent to use a weapon he never drew... Yet people talking about any other aspects about the federal agents in the matter are said to be jumping to conclusions, acting like they have law degrees. I don't have a law degree, but I know part of the law is a court never said he's guilty of anything. I know no one even tried to charge him with any crimes. And the charges they would have brought on him would be a far ways away from capital punishment.

People are acting like his crime was carrying a gun he had a permit for. How many protests have those on the right shown up to with firearms to? Let's be honest. There were people showing up to the state capital in Virginia with guns just a week ago in protest to the new laws the democrat governor is trying to get passed. In a lot of places, that's legal as long as you don't point it at people.

We could debate whether it's smart or not, but that has nothing to do with law.
(01-25-2026, 01:43 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: He was interfering with federal agents.

You want to make him a saint?

Go for it.

But I think he got what he wanted.

Moi? No.

But if I was family of someone that he helped save at the VA ICU, he already is.

And if he saved that woman’s life, then maybe he did.
(01-25-2026, 01:44 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: A school shooter implies they shot their gun at a school.

This guy had his hands up. So how is someone comparable to a school shooter if they never even draw their weapon?

Usually people are innocent until proven guilty. Yet Bovino said in a presser the guy “wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.” If that is the case, why didn't he do it? Why would someone wait until they're face down with several people holding them down to try and do maximum damage? That would be minimum damage at best before your assisted suicide.

So why is it that people can decide his guilt within hours, with no evidence he had intent to use a weapon he never drew... Yet people talking about any other aspects about the federal agents in the matter are said to be jumping to conclusions, acting like they have law degrees. I don't have a law degree, but I know part of the law is a court never said he's guilty of anything. I know no one even tried to charge him with any crimes. And the charges they would have brought on him would be a far ways away from capital punishment.

People are acting like his crime was carrying a gun he had a permit for. How many protests have those on the right shown up to with firearms to? Let's be honest. There were people showing up to the state capital in Virginia with guns just a week ago in protest to the new laws the democrat governor is trying to get passed. In a lot of places, that's legal as long as you don't point it at people.

We could debate whether it's smart or not, but that has nothing to do with law.

Hs had no ID and no permit on him.

Wonder why . . . . . . . .
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(01-25-2026, 01:44 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: A school shooter implies they shot their gun at a school.

This guy had his hands up. So how is someone comparable to a school shooter if they never even draw their weapon?

Usually people are innocent until proven guilty. Yet Bovino said in a presser the guy “wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.” If that is the case, why didn't he do it? Why would someone wait until they're face down with several people holding them down to try and do maximum damage? That would be minimum damage at best before your assisted suicide.

So why is it that people can decide his guilt within hours, with no evidence he had intent to use a weapon he never drew... Yet people talking about any other aspects about the federal agents in the matter are said to be jumping to conclusions, acting like they have law degrees. I don't have a law degree, but I know part of the law is a court never said he's guilty of anything. I know no one even tried to charge him with any crimes. And the charges they would have brought on him would be a far ways away from capital punishment.

People are acting like his crime was carrying a gun he had a permit for. How many protests have those on the right shown up to with firearms to? Let's be honest. There were people showing up to the state capital in Virginia with guns just a week ago in protest to the new laws the democrat governor is trying to get passed. In a lot of places, that's legal as long as you don't point it at people.

We could debate whether it's smart or not, but that has nothing to do with law.

Bovino is the last person to believe here.

I watched one of his pre-raid pep-talks.

Hoo boy. I’m surprised more Americans and immigrants aren’t dead already.



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