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12,000-Year-Old Human Statue Discovered at Göbekli Tepe
#1
It's only a youtube video but still very interesting none the less.
It's good to see research is still on-going at Göbekli Tepe, and at other tepe's. I especially like the fact that it was re-used and placed in the wall, maybe it cracked whilst they were making it and didn't want to waste resources?

Any way, have fun with this update.





 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#2
I love stuff like this.
Blows up the 'Humanity is 6,000 years old' stuff.
The oldest human made stuff are tools from 3.3 million years ago.
Predate Homo Genus.
Found in Kenya.
#3
(09-24-2025, 11:09 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: I love stuff like this.
Blows up the 'Humanity is 6,000 years old' stuff.
The oldest human made stuff are tools from 3.3 million years ago.
Predate Homo Genus.
Found in Kenya.

It sure does.

Gobekli tepe and it's surrounding sites are an amazing archaeological find.

Humans 12.000 years ago settled and built possibly the first real settlements/city that we know of. It's an incredible site and I tend to read or watch anything new about the site.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#4
Graham Handcock blocked my from his facebook page.
I was not here.
#5
That statue kinda looks like it’s wearing a space helmet… and it’s only 2–3 ft tall... hmm

I'm not saying it was aliens...but... [Image: grayalien.gif]
#6
(09-25-2025, 10:01 AM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: Graham Handcock blocked my from his facebook page.


That's probably for the better in my opinion Spin


I think most of what he posts and writes is a bit of a stretch and incorrect information, mixed with little morsels of truth.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#7
(09-26-2025, 04:06 AM)Kurokage Wrote: That's probably for the better in my opinion Spin


I think most of what he posts and writes is a bit of a stretch and incorrect information, mixed with little morsels of truth.

I was into him as a kid, but as a teen I became a psychonaught and then when he started  the whole "white girl" on the entheogens, its like bitch shut the fuck up, you can kill someone with bad advice.
I was not here.
#8
(09-25-2025, 10:01 AM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: Graham Handcock blocked my from his facebook page.

A badge of honor.

Harte
"A wise man will enjoy the goods of which there is a plentiful supply, and of intellectual rubbish he will find an abundant diet, in our own age as in every other.“   Bertrand Russell
#9
(09-26-2025, 04:06 AM)Kurokage Wrote: That's probably for the better in my opinion Spin


I think most of what he posts and writes is a bit of a stretch and incorrect information, mixed with little morsels of truth.

I met Graham one time about ten years ago at a conference where he spoke.  I talked to him for a few minutes near the donut and coffee table before he gave his speech.  He seemed pretty decent.  He did get pretty enthused with his speech.  I guess he talked to a lot of the members of the group at lunchtime, but I didn't buy the lunch package for the three day conference, just ate at a local hamburger joint and had a burger in the hotel restaurant.  The last three years we went to those AAPS conferences, we did eat with the group and got to sit with some mildly famous speakers.  The conference, the room, and the dinners added up to quite a bit of cash (around eight hundred bucks) at the same time we got our half head of grasshead organic beef and the processing fees for the beef....but the beef became christmas presents for the family, so that eighteen hundred was not just food for us...Then of course, that was when we had to get fuel for heating every year before winter set in.  Miss those conferences, some interesting people speaking at them.

The guy who was doing shows on the Oak Island stuff was kind of way over-enthused.  He only did the one year, he got into arguments when a few people challenged his interpretations there who had known others who had been there before investigating things.  He had a big head for sure.  Not bad if you didn't question anything he said, and there were quite a few speakers there who were more famous than he was but he seemed to think his beliefs trumped others interpretations of evidence.   Good place to use the word Trumped?  Not actually a bad guy, but he couldn't debate things correctly.

Maybe next year we will have to go again, we skipped the first couple of covid conferences and went once after but haven't been there in almost three years now.  We thought about going just for one day this year, but we are behind on things to do at the house.  fell on the ice last spring, and screwed up my shoulder and arm, slow recovering when your almost seventy.
#10
(09-26-2025, 11:27 PM)rickymouse Wrote: I met Graham one time about ten years ago at a conference where he spoke.  I talked to him for a few minutes near the donut and coffee table before he gave his speech.  He seemed pretty decent.  He did get pretty enthused with his speech.  I guess he talked to a lot of the members of the group at lunchtime, but I didn't buy the lunch package for the three day conference, just ate at a local hamburger joint and had a burger in the hotel restaurant.  The last three years we went to those AAPS conferences, we did eat with the group and got to sit with some mildly famous speakers.  The conference, the room, and the dinners added up to quite a bit of cash (around eight hundred bucks) at the same time we got our half head of grasshead organic beef and the processing fees for the beef....but the beef became christmas presents for the family, so that eighteen hundred was not just food for us...Then of course, that was when we had to get fuel for heating every year before winter set in.  Miss those conferences, some interesting people speaking at them.

The guy who was doing shows on the Oak Island stuff was kind of way over-enthused.  He only did the one year, he got into arguments when a few people challenged his interpretations there who had known others who had been there before investigating things.  He had a big head for sure.  Not bad if you didn't question anything he said, and there were quite a few speakers there who were more famous than he was but he seemed to think his beliefs trumped others interpretations of evidence.   Good place to use the word Trumped?  Not actually a bad guy, but he couldn't debate things correctly.

Maybe next year we will have to go again, we skipped the first couple of covid conferences and went once after but haven't been there in almost three years now.  We thought about going just for one day this year, but we are behind on things to do at the house.  fell on the ice last spring, and screwed up my shoulder and arm, slow recovering when your almost seventy.

I went to a few conventions on different subjects in my youth, and am willing to admit I got caught up in a lot of the hype, but with age and all that....
I think Graham suffers from the same problem a lot of these 'self-educated' experts suffer. They form a hypothesis before understanding the issue and then mould the evidence to fit that idea or hypothesis.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper



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