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08-29-2025, 06:13 AM
This post was last modified: 08-29-2025, 06:40 AM by xconvoyx. 
Link to Avi Loeb full article.
A Steeply-Rising Production of Cyanide and Nickel Without Iron in the Gas Plume Around 3I/ATLAS
Quote:A new paper on spectroscopic data from the Very Large Telescope (accessible here) reported the surprising detection of nickel without iron in the plume of gas around 3I/ATLAS. Nickel without iron is a signature of industrial production of nickel alloys. This data constitutes a new anomaly of 3I/ATLAS. As this thing gets closer and closer, the anomalies will be piling-up soon enough.
Quote:On October 3, 2025, 3I/ATLAS will pass within 29 million kilometers from the HiRISE camera onboard the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter which will be able to image it with a 30 kilometer per pixel resolution. Such an image could separate the contributions of the nucleus and coma to the reflected sunlight and constrain with greater confidence the size of the nucleus. Our best chance to observe as closely as possible is yet to come.
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08-29-2025, 07:27 AM
This post was last modified: 08-29-2025, 07:28 AM by Kurokage. 
The comet isn't really going to get any where near us, the closet is 1.8 astronomical units (170 million miles) in December. If they're hostile, it seem a bit weird to fly up on Mars and miss us entirely or perhaps their intergalactic GPS is broken?
Still a very interesting object though. Can't wait to see better images.
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(07-26-2025, 12:54 AM)Mantiss2021 Wrote: I would ask how we would possibly go about mounting a "defense" against something that has already survived the rigors of an interstellar transit?
Hubris, thy name is "Human"!
NASA has already deflected an asteroid.
China announces a mission to launch an asteroid destroying spacecraft by 2030.
China Plans Asteroid Deflection Mission by 2030 - YouTube
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(08-29-2025, 07:27 AM)Kurokage Wrote: If they're hostile, it seem a bit weird to fly up on Mars and miss us entirely or perhaps their intergalactic GPS is broken?
Still a very interesting object though. Can't wait to see better images.
Hostile or not, Mars 'maybe", is an ideal place for them to establish a base if they want to observe Earth.
They can easily and quickly come to us but we cannot come to them.
And I think distance is a none issue in a spacefaring civilization.
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08-29-2025, 09:26 AM
This post was last modified: 08-29-2025, 09:30 AM by Kurokage. 
(08-29-2025, 08:21 AM)xconvoyx Wrote: Hostile or not, Mars 'maybe", is an ideal place for them to establish a base if they want to observe Earth.
They can easily and quickly come to us but we cannot come to them.
And I think distance is a none issue in a spacefaring civilization. A spacefaring civilization traveling at 36 miles a second isn't really going that fast, so it would either have to robotic or generational in nature.
At that speed It would take approximately 22.000 years to travel to here from our nearest star approx' 4.25 light years away.
It also hasn't shown any sign of slowing down, so unless they're going to jump off at mars leaving the comet to continue on, I doubt it will be any threat to life on Earth.
But hey....
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(08-29-2025, 08:21 AM)xconvoyx Wrote: Hostile or not, Mars 'maybe", is an ideal place for them to establish a base if they want to observe Earth.
They can easily and quickly come to us but we cannot come to them.
And I think distance is a none issue in a spacefaring civilization.
I believe they are already here on Earth. no need for establishing a base on Mars, imo.
My piece of fantasy scenario....Scientists are telling us that those interstellar objects are an extreme rarity...but..Oumuamua and Atlas on a cosmic time scale are literally back to back events. Something to think about.
May be aliens are looking at what our action would be when detecting such an object and frequency of their appearance? And those objects were sent from not too far away? just giving us an impression of a lone traveler asteroid from ions of light years. With that being a hypothetical idea, I predict another object soon showing up in our vicinity from ions far away. It will have even stranger characteristics.
haha)) why not?
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08-29-2025, 06:33 PM
This post was last modified: 08-29-2025, 06:34 PM by BeyondKnowledge. 
Unless they are very close, any object would need to be launched at us very many years ago. How exactly would they go about observing our reaction to the first one while the last one was already on its way. They could not adjust to any reaction they observed because all shots are already fired and on the way.
Now if you think ants and a magnifying glass on a sunny day. No real attack, they just got board and started throwing rocks.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
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08-29-2025, 06:52 PM
This post was last modified: 08-29-2025, 06:57 PM by Darkorange. 
(08-29-2025, 06:33 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: Unless they are very close, any object would need to be launched at us very many years ago. How exactly would they go about observing our reaction to the first one while the last one was already on its way. They could not adjust to any reaction they observed because all shots are already fired and on the way.
Man, I really have meant something else...They observed our reaction first time around with Oumuamua which was sent out from, say, Neptune orbit. We detecting those when our telescopes are capable to detect, which is not very far given the size of the object. From the same orbit they can send another one knowing our reaction to the first one...I mean, how do you know from where those came?
You still assume a far away shot. Trajectory can be faked impersonating a path from far away when in reality asteroids can be sent from the distance where our telescopes cannot discover a real point of origin and their path would suggest a far interstellar point of origin.
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(08-29-2025, 09:26 AM)Kurokage Wrote: A spacefaring civilization traveling at 36 miles a second isn't really going that fast, so it would either have to robotic or generational in nature.
At that speed It would take approximately 22.000 years to travel to here from our nearest star approx' 4.25 light years away.
It also hasn't shown any sign of slowing down, so unless they're going to jump off at mars leaving the comet to continue on, I doubt it will be any threat to life on Earth.
But hey....
[Video: https://youtu.be/Poii8JAbtng?si=vE6uGt83SLfnjqlw]

What makes you think they would be biological? I find the Congress hearings especially comical. The first question out of every congress person is "Are they biological?"
As if having a biological body is somehow advantageous. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
We need to alter our understanding of what is an 'advantageous container' for our soul. It certainly isn't in a biological container. The only thing that makes sense about it is sex. Which is absolutely animalistic in its own nature.....
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It is Truth's Fleet and he is pissed that the Demon has destroyed the Halo rings.......
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