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(08-29-2025, 06:52 PM)Darkorange Wrote: Man, I really have meant something else...They observed our reaction first time around with Oumuamua which was sent out from, say, Neptune orbit. We detecting those when our telescopes are capable to detect, which is not very far given the size of the object. From the same orbit they can send another one knowing our reaction to the first one...I mean, how do you know from where those came?
You still assume a far away shot. Trajectory can be faked impersonating a path from far away when in reality asteroids can be sent from the distance where our telescopes cannot discover a real point of origin and their path would suggest a far interstellar point of origin.
Sorry, but it wasn't from "say, Neptune orbit" because it was traveling to fast.
Quote:Oumuamua was first spotted on 19 October 2017. A telescope in Hawaii spied it as it made its way past the Sun, reaching a top speed of 87 kilometers per second—too fast to have originated in the Solar System.
And it has now travelled past Neptune and is leaving our solar system.
Quote:Preliminary orbital calculations suggest that the object came from the approximate direction of the bright star Vega, in the northern constellation of Lyra. However, it took so long for the interstellar object to make the journey―even at the speed of about 59,000 miles per hour (26.4 kilometers per second)―that Vega was not near that position when the ‘Oumuamua was there about 300,000 years ago.
Astronomers estimate that an interstellar object similar to ‘Oumuamua passes through the inner solar system about once per year, but they are faint and hard to spot and have been missed until now. It is only recently that survey telescopes, such as Pan-STARRS1, are powerful enough to have a chance to discover them.
https://science.nasa.gov/solar-system/comets/oumuamua/
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Detection of an Anti-Solar Tail for 3I/ATLAS (Avi Loeb)
Quote:On August 27, 2025, deep imaging of the interstellar object 3I/ATLAS by the Gemini South 8.2-meter telescope — aided by the Gemini Multi-Object Spectrograph (GMOS), revealed a weak tail with a teardrop shape in the anti-Sun direction (reported here). At that time, 3I/ATLAS was at a distance from Earth of 2.59 times the Earth-Sun separation. Link to article...
Detection of an Anti-Solar Tail for 3I/ATLAS
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Deep images of 3I/ATLAS, taken by the Gemini South telescope on August 27, 2025.
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08-31-2025, 03:43 PM
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(08-30-2025, 06:57 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Sorry, but it wasn't from "say, Neptune orbit" because it was traveling to fast.
my conspiracy assumption was that alien civilization has sent it. Are you an expert in alien tech as well along with everything else on Earth? they could've given it an initial impulse strong enough to mimic a far away origin was my point.
but...if it'll make you feel less stressed, let's say ATLAS was sent from about the orbit of Pluto.
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(08-31-2025, 03:43 PM)Darkorange Wrote: my conspiracy assumption was that alien civilization has sent it. Are you an expert in alien tech as well along with everything else on Earth? they could've given it an initial impulse strong enough to mimic a far away origin was my point.
but...if it'll make you feel less stressed, let's say ATLAS was sent from about the orbit of Pluto.
I just posted evidence from NASA that shows it's an interstellar comet from outside our solar system and not ET, I'm sorry if you feel hard done by. Conspiracy is fine, but at least have some evidence to back up your claims.
Occam's razor states...
Quote:This philosophical razor advocates that when presented with competing hypotheses about the same prediction and both hypotheses have equal explanatory power, one should prefer the hypothesis that requires the fewest assumptions
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(09-01-2025, 04:30 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I just posted evidence from NASA that shows it's an interstellar comet from outside our solar system and not ET,
How do you define ET? There are no clear signs of any intelligent life on board at this time. As for being Extraterrestrial, something outside this solar system fits that definition.
Getting a lot of unexpected results with what is being found so far. It is interesting how 3I/Atlas is coming from the same direction that the WOW signal was detected. It is coming from the same direction as the center of the Galaxy, expect a lot of unexpected stuff in that direction.
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They are now saying its around 30 miles wide and showing signs of artificial metal.
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09-01-2025, 07:29 AM
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(09-01-2025, 06:56 AM)Kwaka Wrote: How do you define ET? There are no clear signs of any intelligent life on board at this time. As for being Extraterrestrial, something outside this solar system fits that definition.
Getting a lot of unexpected results with what is being found so far. It is interesting how 3I/Atlas is coming from the same direction that the WOW signal was detected. It is coming from the same direction as the center of the Galaxy, expect a lot of unexpected stuff in that direction.
ET as in "ouchhh" or "Phone home!!" Was meant has a slight humorous comment, as so far it's shown no signs of intelligent life being at the controls. Avi Loeb does have a tendency to jump to Alien spacecraft for the Media attention.
Do you have any links that show it came from the the area you're suggesting? Would be interested.
"Getting a lot of unexpected results with what is being found so far."
As this is only the third time a interstellar object has been detected within our solar system, it's bound to show differences with objects observed from within our own system.
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(09-01-2025, 07:29 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Do you have any links that show it came from the the area you're suggesting?
I have come across other reports that 3I/Atlas came from the direction of Sagittarius, which is also in the direction of the Galactic Center.
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(09-01-2025, 04:30 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I just posted evidence from NASA that shows it's an interstellar comet from outside our solar system and not ET, I'm sorry if you feel hard done by. Conspiracy is fine, but at least have some evidence to back up your claims.
Occam's razor states...
my posts were simply a fun 'what if'...I know it's a comet. so take it easy.
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(08-10-2025, 01:41 AM)Karl12 Wrote: Yes Talpiot trained Loeb has been plastered all over the Mockingbird media recently even suggesting 'mini probes' could split from the object.
He's also calling for an 'international organisation' to speak for humanity and 'bring people together to unite over the external threat' which sounds incredibly familiar to comments made from 24:20 (also from this timeline compiled by Curt Collins).
From 9:30
[Video: https://youtu.be/SJx99ssIw4M]
Also turns out Avi Loeb is an 'Agenda Contributor' for the WEF.
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