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(10-12-2025, 10:21 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Gosh I don't believe I hadn't noticed that before. The "USS Eldridge". This reality really lays it on thick some times.
Oh look, he was made Commander on September 11th 1941, and led the air attack on the Solomon Islands in '42.
¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Eldridge
Love these little winks from the universe. Check this and tell me the planes fate was not written https://denyignorance.com/Thread-B-2-Accident-Report
about the ship Forbidden science 4
Quote:Hummingbird. Thursday 3 December 1992.
Today I received a letter from a 67-year-old man, Edward A. Dudgeon. A reader of Revelations, he exposes the infamous “Philadelphia Experiment” in which a ship was rumored to have vanished in 1943 (1): “I was on a destroyer that was in Philadelphia at the same time as the Eldridge DE 173. The whole story is a bunch of bunk... We had the same equipment on our ship as the Eldridge did. We were with two other destroyers and the Eldridge on shakedown in Bermuda and returned to Philadelphia... We had things put on board that were secret at the time as they were all new developments but now would be considered primitive...”
So this is one of the mysterious “sailors who vanished” in the wild tale that UFO books have made legendary. I have just spoken to this gentleman. The ship was made to “disappear”—not from our universe but more prosaically from the sensing devices of German magnetic torpedoes, a process that was secret in 1943. I won't have a chance to meet him until I get back from France where I’ll visit the Bertin Company to assess their work on the human genome. (2) Quote:San Diego. Windham hotel. Thursday 11 March 1993.
Over lunch in Mira Loma with Ed Dudgeon, the former Navy electrician who served on a destroyer commissioned at the same time as the Eldridge, of Philadelphia Experiment fame, I learned he was familiar with the classified equipment she carried, counter-measures “making ships invisible” … to German magnetic torpedoes (5). Aviation expert John Andrews met me for dinner. John couldn't account for the Belgian triangles, and he’d never heard of the curious dark green triangle as described by one of my correspondents, who saw it close to the ground (6). Quote:Philadelphia. Red Carpet Club. Saturday 8 October 1994..
Ed Dudgeon regretted writing to me: he considers the Philadelphia Experiment a ludicrous episode. Yet there’s a sparkle in his eye while he tells our guide, a Lieutenant-Commander, how the Navy did the de-Gaussing that so amazed Carl Allen, alias Carlos Allende, when he concocted the yarn about ETs and vanishing ships. It was a good day. The sun was shining over the harbor, the channel was inviting, seagulls soared beyond the superstructures of the Guadalcanal. It would be silly to dwell on the story, except for the fact that similar hoaxes are born every day, and that aspiring ufologists of the new generation are re-discovering such tales--and believe them.
People can fall into dangerous spirals over such distorted notions: only two days ago some 50 members of a doomsday cult called the Order of the Solar Temple were found dead in Switzerland and Québec. Similar delusions helped precipitate World War Two, when Hitler used the Protocols of the Elders of Sion, that ugly hoax, to condone his mass killings of Jews. So this trip feels like a pilgrimage, even if the 18-inch guns of the battleships have been silent for years, and if the Eldridge has been scrapped decades ago, secrets and all. Quote:The “Philadelphia Experiment” hoax: an alleged wartime Navy experiment supposed to have been carried out at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard, about October 28, 1943. The destroyer escort USS Eldridge (DE-173) was claimed to have been rendered invisible (or "cloaked") to enemy devices. The story first appeared in 1955, in letters of unknown origin sent by a “Carlos Allende”to a writer and astronomer, Morris K. Jessup.
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(10-12-2025, 07:40 AM)LightAngel Wrote: "Time"
Tell me about "Time"?
Maybe we need to understand that "Time" doesn't really exist, and maybe that knowledge can help us to travel in deep space.
as it happens
Western occult traditions often discuss three models of time: linear, cyclical, and eternal.
Tibetan lamas speak of the “alam al-withal,” an imaginal realm where past, present, and future converge in a tapestry of forms.
Across cultures, rituals have bent time’s rules. The ancient Greeks held the Eleusinian Mysteries, rites tied to Persephone’s cycles, where initiates glimpsed eternity in torchlit caves. In Mesoamerica, the Aztecs performed blood offerings under specific stars, aligning with cosmic moments to transcend the mundane. Modern witches cast circles on sabbats like Samhain, thinning the veil between past and present. These acts prove time is not fixed—it bends under the weight of focused will. Imagine standing in a circle, the cedar smoke curling around you, as you call forth a moment from another era. This is ritual as rebellion against the temporal.
Each tradition offers tools. Wicca uses lunar phases—full moons for power, new moons for beginnings—to amplify time-breaking spells. In Chaos Magic, sigils collapse past and future into a single intent. A friend once crafted a sigil to revisit a lost conversation, and in meditation, heard its echo, gaining closure. Rituals turn time into a canvas—will you paint across its edges?
In witchcraft, the circle is a practical and symbolic act, a cornerstone of the craft that bridges the earthly and the divine. Drawing a circle with salt, chalk, or even visualization creates a sacred space where energies are contained and directed, a microcosm where the practitioner becomes the center of the universe.
Witchcraft: Outside the Circles of Time - Andrew Yahodka
the book is surprisingly good, interesting mediation practices and others. might break your brain for a bit
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(10-12-2025, 11:31 AM)Sirius Wrote: "Western occult traditions often discuss three models of time: linear, cyclical, and eternal."
Also present in the ancient Greek distinction between Χρονος (chronos) and Αιων (aeon). You can see the line between cyclical and eternal being blurred in that second Strong's definition—a very useful dogmatic contrivance.¹
A subtlety that makes reading the New Testament in the original Koine Greek, with understanding, a very enlightening endeavour.
¹ https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/q...pt-eternal
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(10-12-2025, 11:44 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Also present in the ancient Greek distinction between Χρονος (chronos) and Αιων (aeon). You can see the line between cyclical and eternal being blurred in that second Strong's definition—a very useful dogmatic contrivance.
A subtlety that makes reading the New Testament in the original Koine Greek, with understanding, a very enlightening endeavour.
wonder if the gospel of John and Thomas has anything on the topic. need checkup on Neptune again
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pfft, easy
The One is infinite light
Purity
Holiness
Stainless,
The One is incomprehensible
Perfectly free from corruption.
Not “perfect”
Not “blessed”
Not “divine”
But superior to such concepts.
Neither physical nor unphysical
Neither immense nor infinitesimal
It is impossible to specify in quantity or quality
For it is beyond knowledge.
The One is not a being among other beings
It is vastly superior
But it is not “superior.”
It is outside of realms of being and time
For whatever is within realms of being was created
And whatever is within time had time allotted to it
The One receives nothing from anything.
It simply apprehends itself in its own perfect light
The One is majestic.
The One is measureless majesty
Chief of all Realms
Producing all realms
Light
Producing light
Life
Producing life
Blessedness
Producing blessedness
Knowledge
Producing knowledge
Good
Producing goodness
Mercy
Producing mercy
Generous
Producing generosity
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(10-12-2025, 02:16 AM)LightAngel Wrote: Remember that Tesla believed that everything in the universe resonates at specific frequencies. He said "If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration" ... and I agree with that.
I believe that when we leave the body then there is no time, but I am not sure if humans will ever understand why.
I agree. This is my belief as well.
I also believe both "off planet beings" and "dimensional beings" -- have been here/around from the beginning of our world.
I remember when I was a child -- sliding up my wall -- the ceiling disappearing and I was flying around the neighborhood over the rooftops. If I wanted to see inside a house the roof would just disappear. I had other astral adventures too. I had no body unless I projected one.
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(10-12-2025, 02:16 AM)LightAngel Wrote: Ever since I was a little girl I have been interested in the Philadelphia-Experiment. 
Legend says the U.S. Navy tried to make the USS Eldridge invisible in 1943, and it vanished. Some claim Nikola Tesla's electromagnetic theories inspired the experiment, linking him to time travel and teleportation tech.
Remember that Tesla believed that everything in the universe resonates at specific frequencies. He said "If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration" ... and I agree with that.
What do you think?
I believe that when we leave the body then there is no time, but I am not sure if humans will ever understand why.
Maybe one day we will understand that if we deserve it! 
I believe that Tesla and Einstein both believed in the 'Unified Field Theory', which would theoretically unify Electromagnetic weak and strong forces, and the General Theory of Relativity, which would include gravitational forces and quantum forces as yet not perhaps fully measured.
I also am intrigued by the talk of the "Philadephia Experiment". Alas, there is not much vetted data that supports it, however that was also a time where "data" that went against the grain of the government/military was easily supressed. I've done more than a bit of research on this and have come up empty-handed. I am in touch with a distant relative of John Eldridge Jr., for whom the ship was named. That's all I have right now. Doesn't stop me from continuing to look.
I don't care for the new movie. I like the original with Michael Pare.
"Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about. Be kind. Always". - Darielys Tejera/Spc. Douglas Jay Green/Robin Williams
"Pseudoscience, depending for its “truth” on consensus, is deeply hostile to challenge." - Rael Jean Isaac
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If Tesla was around today, they would have had him on meds for high level autism, antipsychotic meds, and of course ADHD meds when he was a kid.
Most great minds have been considered fruitcakes over the years if they did not parrot consensus of the time in the field of science they were in.
If you learn to control ADHD, it can be a really good thing. High level autism is not bad, why would any super intelligent person want to deal with the irrational behavior of the Human Race. I actually kind of admire that so many people are so different, if everyone was like me, society would be so boring. I often wish I could be spontanious and fun loving, but no matter how I try, I cannot be that way.
I am practicing trying to make jokes though, I still suck at it, but at least I am trying. That is why I put the little laughing guy after posts I am trying to promote as joking or fun...otherwise people will think I am just weird.....wait a minute, I am a weird nerd, always have been. Scratch that word think and insert know in it's place. Here I go again with the
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Tesla is the first scientist I thought of as "smartest."
He was, of course, basely oppressed by the industries bent on profiteering (ambitious "barons" of industry.)
I think, had he been unmolested, he might have actually guided us into more potential
applications for vortex-based systems... but hell, I never met anyone who might compare with that intellect.
It kind of disappointed me that someone used his name for a car , and not a space ship.
I am resistant to defining time.
It seems a thing whose nature we can only perceive in effect, and "agree" on it's nature. Like guessing the mass of a comet's tale by inference.
Time seems perceptually linked. Linear thinking accommodates the framing... before, now, later.
But it is not impossible to conceive that from "time's" perspective - everything happens all at once.
We know this is illogical.
But so is entanglement... we just created a framework to accommodate the effect in a model.
Sorry if that doesn't make sense... I thought it did at the time.
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(10-12-2025, 01:13 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I agree. This is my belief as well.
I also believe both "off planet beings" and "dimensional beings" -- have been here/around from the beginning of our world.
I remember when I was a child -- sliding up my wall -- the ceiling disappearing and I was flying around the neighborhood over the rooftops. If I wanted to see inside a house the roof would just disappear. I had other astral adventures too. I had no body unless I projected one.
We could have beings that vibrate at such a high frequency that we could not see them living among us. They could walk around us like we are standing still. They could survive by taking energy from us, from our aura or the energy leaking from us. Beings of what we would refer to as energy beings. They could exist and we would never know they were even here.
But now that I have brought up something most would see as crazy, I will have to state that this is just a far fetched possibility. We only see things within a certain frequency range, same goes for hearing. We cannot comprehend what could be possible in the reality we live in.
I try to keep my mind open to possibilities, without saying anything usually, because there is no way to even test this kind of stuff with our lack of proper technology...so I focus on trying to properly assess scientific research which is already done but do not automatically accept the conclusions that have been made by many who benefit financially or by gain of prestige from their conclusions. So, I guess that makes me a skeptic.
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