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#31
(07-19-2025, 07:31 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: well she probably knows you better than any one here so your only question is do you trust her
its not about rational autonomy

It's really about do I trust myself to be able to use my strong will to keep me focused on the journey and purpose of the journey that either I let the shroom take me on the wild ride, or if I orchestrate the ride to the result that I think I need to find.
"The only journey is the one within."
#32
(07-20-2025, 09:10 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It's really about do I trust myself to be able to use my strong will to keep me focused on the journey and purpose of the journey that either I let the shroom take me on the wild ride, or if I orchestrate the ride to the result that I think I need to find.

hmm that sounds maybe yellow flag?
many don't react well to their 'strong will' being steamrolled
trust yourself to be yourself?

anyway take half
or double

have a safe space
to go to if needed
#33
(07-20-2025, 09:18 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: hmm that sounds maybe yellow flag?
many don't react well to their 'strong will' being steamrolled
trust yourself to be yourself?

anyway take half
or double

have a safe space
to go to if needed

Yes, the yellow flag is really does my daughter know the proper dose to give me so I can keep some control of the journey or vision quest when she may have developed a tolerance to it.
"The only journey is the one within."
#34
I might add that there is little likelihood of ever enjoying "the same trip"with another....

The totality of the experience is internal...I suspect most physical affectations are a sort of 
projection of the mind-state.

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I never thought I would recount this.... given it's nature....

After a long dry spell of such partaking... risked mushrooms (simple buttons)... light dose

"For the first time in literally years,
I remembered what it felt like to not be depressed...

It was absolutely glorious...

BUT....

Hours after the dose...
after feeling like I had returned to "normal."...

I had the worst anxiety attack ever....
(Like, under the sheets "please hold me" anxiety attack.)

It was relatively brief - just a few hours....
And it is very difficult to "blame" the mushroom experience...

I think my brain just dumped a giant anxiety reservoir... emptied.
Truly soul shaking.. definitely not for the inexperienced... 

Haven't had an anxiety attack since... (been about 3-4 years)
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Each "trip" is different ...
each person is different...
each time is the first time.
#35
(07-20-2025, 09:59 AM)Maxmars Wrote: I might add that there is little likelihood of ever enjoying "the same trip"with another....

The totality of the experience is internal...I suspect most physical affectations are a sort of 
projection of the mind-state.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I never thought I would recount this.... given it's nature....

After a long dry spell of such partaking... risked mushrooms (simple buttons)... light dose

"For the first time in literally years,
I remembered what it felt like to not be depressed...

It was absolutely glorious...

BUT....

Hours after the dose...
after feeling like I had returned to "normal."...

I had the worst anxiety attack ever....
(Like, under the sheets "please hold me" anxiety attack.)

It was relatively brief - just a few hours....
And it is very difficult to "blame" the mushroom experience...

I think my brain just dumped a giant anxiety reservoir... emptied.
Truly soul shaking.. definitely not for the inexperienced... 

Haven't had an anxiety attack since... (been about 3-4 years)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Each "trip" is different ...
each person is different...
each time is the first time.

I suppose that's why my daughter is suggesting to me that her experiences were for self-awareness and ego busting, as if, that would also be my quest. But she is not in the same place as I am now. Do I want to bust up my ego (?) or is my ego necessary for survival (?)
"The only journey is the one within."
#36
Setting is super important.
I only did those two times on the same weekend.
Once at night and once at day time.
The night time was my first time and I was alone in a tent. 
It was very dark, a bit scary, but i surrendered to it. 
Embraced the fear
It was a Saturnian/snake vision I was swallowed.
I felt the weight of the universe, a giant leaden weight, crushing with pressure.
I was reborn.
Then the day time one was totally the opposite.
Light free happy giggly.
Jazz music. Lakeside.
I dont know if I would want to have a fire going. That might be scary.
#37
(07-20-2025, 10:08 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I suppose that's why my daughter is suggesting to me that her experiences were for self-awareness and ego busting, as if, that would also be my quest. But she is not in the same place as I am now. Do I want to bust up my ego (?) or is my ego necessary for survival (?)

The ego death is a powerful healing experience.

Do you think you need a powerful healing experience? 

This is the question we should ask ourselves before experimenting with copious amounts of substances. Remember that the drug is only half of the equation. The other half is what you take in with you.
#38
(07-20-2025, 07:12 PM)AlroyFarms Wrote: The ego death is a powerful healing experience.

Do you think you need a powerful healing experience? 

This is the question we should ask ourselves before experimenting with copious amounts of substances. Remember that the drug is only half of the equation. The other half is what you take in with you.

Quite honestly, I think I do not need a powerful healing experience because I already do emotional/psychic healing and clearing/cleansing. But my daughter did say that I am holding back the 'gift' of psychic abilities which I should not do because it is a natural part and should be embraced (but she does not have it to the extent that I do, so our experiences vary). I explained that it is very strong and visions and such would intrude upon my existence in the now /mind and I choose for it to be held at bay until I choose to invite it.

Talk about using one's free (stubborn?) will to block a philosophical/biological/metaphysical force.
"The only journey is the one within."
#39
haha i can see why she thinks you need some shrooms

you've got a good one there
#40
(07-21-2025, 08:47 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: haha i can see why she thinks you need some shrooms

you've got a good one there

Yes, I am truly blessed and as such I think I'm good where I am, so shrooms or not, I will remain steadfast in where I am in the now, until I decide it's time to be in another place, in the now.
"The only journey is the one within."