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Breaking News - Air India 171 to London Gatwick crashes in Ahmedabad - 240+ Souls
#11
(06-12-2025, 07:14 AM)quintessentone Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_fleet

I wonder how old that 787 was because it may have been one of the planes scheduled for a retrofit in 2025.
It was 11 years old which is relatively young for a commercial jet.
#12
(06-12-2025, 09:31 AM)LogicalGraffiti Wrote: It was 11 years old which is relatively young for a commercial jet.

How do you know because the Wikipedia source says they ordered most of them in 2006?
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#13
(06-12-2025, 09:32 AM)quintessentone Wrote: How do you know because the Wikipedia source says they ordered most of them in 2006?
No, I did what most people do, searched for an answer...
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new...48278.html
Quote:The aircraft involved in the crash was a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner, registered as VT-ANB, which entered service in December 2013. It is one of 27 Boeing 787-8 Dreamliners in Air India’s fleet.
Quote: 
#14
(06-12-2025, 09:43 AM)LogicalGraffiti Wrote: No, I did what most people do, searched for an answer...
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new...48278.html

Your source states that it entered service in 2013, but how old was it? Edit: almost 12 years old.

BTW I did do a quick search before asking but nothing came up...now sources are coming up.
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#15
(06-12-2025, 09:47 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Your source states that it entered service in 2013, but how old was it? Edit: almost 12 years old.

BTW I did do a quick search before asking but nothing came up...now sources are coming up.
I don't know but I'm guessing this one was bought new.  They haven't been around that long.
#16
(06-12-2025, 09:55 AM)LogicalGraffiti Wrote: I don't know but I'm guessing this one was bought new.  They haven't been around that long.

How was Boeing's manufacturing processes back then? Weren't they still 'profit over safety' at that time?
"The only journey is the one within."
#17
After looking at a couple of videos, it almost looks like the flaps were not extended for take off.

Maybe someone with a better knowledge of 787 configurations could say for sure.


In the picture on this website of the plane, there is no flaps down.

https://www.wionews.com/india-news/ahmed...9732716698
#18
(06-12-2025, 10:02 AM)RazorV66 Wrote: After looking at a couple of videos, it almost looks like the flaps were not extended for take off.

Maybe someone with a better knowledge of 787 configurations could say for sure.


In the picture on this website of the plane, there is no flaps down.

https://www.wionews.com/india-news/ahmed...9732716698


This is what the experts on the news are talking about.  If you take off without flaps apparently it's not good.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
#19
(06-12-2025, 11:04 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: This is what the experts on the news are talking about.  If you take off without flaps apparently it's not good.


Yeah I am not a pilot but I think flaps on takeoff and landing are probably #1 on a pilots checklist.
#20
Miraculously, 2 survivors have been found.

Edit: A GB NEWS headline misleadingly mentioned "Two survivors found in miracle discovery" but this was wrong.

Just the one survivor.
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