01-15-2025, 04:18 AM
This post was last modified 01-15-2025, 04:19 AM by Freeborn. Edited 1 time in total.
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(01-14-2025, 03:38 PM)sahgwa Wrote: If it is not obvious that the Ukraine conflict is a proxy war between the 'Western' oligarchy of the USA and UK (and to a lesser degree the EU) and the 'Eastern' oligarchy, largely Russia and North Korea (and to a lesser degree, China), I don't know what to tell you.
It's certainly not a proxy war as far as Russia is concerned, they are quite openly conducting a war of invasion on a non-threatening neighbour whose independence they were sworn to respect and protect. They are using Russian forces - supplemented by North Korean troops and African mercenaries - and Russian equipment - although increasingly reliant on supplies and armaments from those paragons of virtue Iran and North Korea.
Nothing 'proxy' about any of that.
Yes, the UK/US/NATO have supplied arms and training etc but no boots on the ground actually engaged with Russian forces.
The UK and US were also sworn to protect and respect Ukraine independence and its borders, that is what they are doing......honouring their word. (Obviously its not quite as simplistic as that.....but true nonetheless.)
If Putin hadn't invaded Ukraine none of this would be happening.
It really is as simple as that.
You don't know what to tell me?
Try not 'telling' me anything and try discussing, debating and even dare I say considering alternative opinions?
I believe in this and its been tested by research, he who fucks nuns will later join the church.