11-27-2024, 01:43 PM
This post was last modified 11-27-2024, 01:50 PM by quintessentone. Edited 1 time in total. 
(11-27-2024, 09:32 AM)Karl12 Wrote: Fair point mate and in virtually all these cases the EM effects (if that's what they are) stopped directly after the object departed - there's also speculation that exotic plasmas can cause hallucinations upon the human consciousness but suppose physical trace evidence: broken tree limbs, dehydrated soil, radar confirmation etc. makes the purely imaginary hypothesis untenable.
If we take this case from the Levelland flap then it's worth pointing out that the USAF completely ignored the alleged presence of the object and instead just claimed that everything was due to 'an electrical storm which stimulated the populace into a high level of excitement'.
Trouble was (as atmospherical physicist Dr James E. McDonald pointed out) there had been no storm in the area at the time and 'thus no source of excessive moisture to interfere with the automobiles' electrical systems'.
Really interesting phenomenon though (especially motor vehicle cases) and am open to discussing all explanations that account for all aspects.
Some already posted in the thread but below are some further links on motor vehicle EM effects:
• UFO INTERFERENCE WITH VEHICLES
AND SELF-STARTING ENGINES - James M. McCampbell
• THE EFFECTS OF POSITION AND DISTANCE IN
UFO IGNITION-INTERFERENCE CASES - Donald A. Johnson
• Electromagnetic Effects, Car Engines & UFOs - Kevin Randle / 2
• Vehicle Encounter / Pacing Cases
Also, some of the official USAF UFO debunks are complete bollocks so if you have any views (or know of any other examples) then please post.
I am just wondering about the quartz in timepieces, specifically that it may conduct outside forces and then overload.
Even with power lines the amount of electricity flowing through those lines can increase substantially depending on type of line and also demand.
Quotes from AI searches:
Quote:Piezoelectric effect Quartz is a piezoelectric material, meaning it generates voltage when struck and vibrates when subjected to voltage.
Quote:Typically, high voltage lines carry electricity at levels ranging from 69,000 volts to several hundred thousand volts.
I was just listening to the Travis Walton abduction account again, and the work truck the guys were in never stopped working before and after Travis was struck by the UFO's beam, but their work hats did register higher than normal radiation levels, supposedly.
It seems to me that the investigators of the Levelland case may have been on to something about atmospheric electricity.
Quote:Atmospheric electricity involves both thunderstorms, which create lightning bolts to rapidly discharge huge amounts of atmospheric charge stored in storm clouds, and the continual electrification of the air due to ionization from cosmic rays and natural radioactivity, which ensure that the atmosphere is never quite neutral.[sup][[/sup]
I mean the ozone layer over that region during that time in 1957 was supposedly stable(?)
Was the good doctor, atmospherical physicist Dr James E. McDonald, back in 1957 only looking at moisture levels?
As for exotic and everyday plasmas (the fourth state of matter(?)), sure that and many other theories, I am sure, should be put out there so we can at least continue discussion and debate.
If other explanations or science can explain the effects or aftereffects from alleged UFO encounters then we should put that forth.
Everyday plasmas:
Lighting (florescent/neon signs), TVs, lightning, aurora,...
flames ... etc.
https://youtu.be/eVNtIjbezLA?si=VAK8Za8CFckVQmIE
Should we be trying to figure out the emission spectrum of the UFO beam to determine what it could be?
As for explanations as to what causes human hallucinations and/or human belief in the reality of a UFO encounter, well that would entail a very long and complicated discussion.
Great thread by the way.
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