07-26-2024, 10:56 AM
Other early disc reports:
Some other old Australian reports - first three examples also describe paralysis from occupant light beam.
Also quite a few pre -1947 reports of unknown objects submerging into (or emerging from) the world's oceans found in USO archives and below are a few potential disc shape candidates
Quote:Date: September 2 1902
Location: Lowestoft, England
Time: 07:00
Summary: A daylight disc was observed by a female witness.
Source: Hatch, Larry
Date: 1901
Location: New Haven, Missouri
Time: Night
Summary: A flying disc was observed. One disc was observed by three witnesses, two of them an experienced observors, in a forest (Welter). A noise was heard
Source: Rogerson, Peter World-Wide Catalog of Type 1 Reports
Date: 1905
Location: Bucovina, Romania
Summary: During the evening a retired doctor saw a brightly glowing elongated, saucer-shaped object bigger than the moon traveling steadily westwards.
Source: Hobana, Ion
Date: Mid- 1900
Location: Caddwst, UK
Time: Dusk
Summary: A flying disc was observed. One disc, about 20 feet across, was observed by one female 12-year-old witness in a forest.
Source: Lorenzen, Coral E. UFOs: The Whole Story Signet T3897, New York, 1969
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Some other old Australian reports - first three examples also describe paralysis from occupant light beam.
Quote:• 1893 Central New South Wales
An anecdote handed down within a farming family told of an extraordinary UFO story that was alleged to have happened in 1893 in Central New South Wales. A farmer claimed that a saucer-shaped object landed in a paddock on his property. As he approached the object, a man in strange clothing emerged from it. The farmer walked towards the being. The stranger shone some kind of beam at him, whereby the farmer was thrown to the ground, stunned. His hand where the beam had hit him was paralysed for life.
Source: Chalker, Bill The Oz files. Duffy & Snellgrove. Potts Point, NSW. 1996. p.28. Citing that the story was told to Dr Miran Lindtner, UFO Information Centre, Sydney in the 1960's.
Note:
1. Details similar to the 1919 Central NSW case and the 1913 Nuriootpa, SA case. Are one or more of these three similar events, a distorted recollection of an original story?
• 1919 Central, New South Wales
While travelling down a country road, a man came across an artifact resting near the roadside. He saw that a 'man' was apparently working on it, and went over to offer assistance. The stranger turned as if surprised and pointed something at the witness, who was knocked senseless. When he came to, the object and the man had gone. He found that his memory was never the same again.
Source: Chalker, W C. “The CEII experience in Australia.” “Australian Co-Ordination Section” (for the US based Center for UFO Studies) Bulletin, March 1977, number 9, p11.
Note: Note the similarity with the 1893 Central New South Wales report and the Circa 1913 Nuriootpa event.
• Circa 1913 Nuriootpa, South Australia
A farmer discovered a landed object and was “zapped” by a humanoid which appeared from within it, leaving a lasting paralysis in the witness.
Source: Personal communication from Darryl Tiggeman of Adelaide to Keith Basterfield. 2004. Citing the source as a radio talk back show featuring Adelaide UFOlogist Colin Norris in circa 1984.
Notes: Note the similarity with the 1893 Central New South Wales event and the 1919 Central New South Wales case.
• 1911 Gumeracha, South Australia
As a young lad in 1911 a man had been working on his father’s farm, milking cows. While carrying two buckets of milk, he felt a pain in his head and placing the buckets down, he observed, in front of him some distance away, a disc shaped object. It was about 10 feet across and was silver and glowing like the Moon. He watched it for about 15 seconds, then it rose into the air and disappeared at a very fast rate into the horizon.
Source: UFOPI’s “Panorama” magazine Volume 3 Number 5 page 18, Jul-Aug 1964
• Spring 1921 Prospect, Adelaide, South Australia
One evening, a man named Felix Jones saw a circular-like saucer. It was 12-15 feet across, and 3 feet deep. It was a lightish colour but reflecting green from within it. It had neither wings nor propeller, but did have rectangular windows. It was seen in the north-north-west, stationary from three minutes. It then moved off to the west, slowly, then quickly. When it moved it glowed at the back.
Source: Australian Saucer Record volume 2 number 4 1956 page 7. The item stated that the report was received 15 Oct 1956.
• 1924 60 miles south of Coolamon, NSW
‘Some years ago, an elderly man, Ian Rogers, rang me about an incident when he was a boy in 1924. One morning he was checking their rabbit traps in the Lysterfield State Forest, south of Coolamon.’ He heard a humming noise and saw a landed object, some 100 yards distant. It was a ‘long, cylindrical shape, rounded at both ends, with four square windows along the side. It was at least 30 feet long…’ At one stage ‘people’ got out of it. It then flew off into the sky. The witness said the ground was burnt black and trees singed. At one stage he said he had a ‘small piece of metal’ and that ‘When I rubbed it with my hands it would move off of its own accord.’
Source: McGhee, M. (2016.) ‘Contact Down Under.’ Independent Network of UFO Investigators. Katoomba. Pp 97-98.
• 1925 Moora, Western Australia
Two young men came across an object resting in a paddock. It was described as two saucers on edge, with oval shaped 'windows' and four 'legs.' The men beat a hasty retreat and didn't return for several days. When they did, they reportedly found the earth scuffed about.
Source: Chalker, W. C. “The CEII experience in Australia,” “Australian Co-Ordination Section” (for the US based Center for UFO Studies) Bulletin, March 1977, Number 9 p12.
• About 1945 Wilcannia NSW
‘A senior police officer told me of an elderly country woman, now deceased, who saw a traditional flying saucer, during daylight hours, near Wilcannia, in Western New South Wales, in the 1940’s, just after World War 2. She claimed that after reporting the sighting to the authorities, she received a letter from the Australian Air Force confirming the report, and warning her not to tell anyone about the craft. The police officer attested to having seen the letter, which appeared to be genuine.
Source: McGhee, M. (2016.) ‘Contact Down Under.’ Independent Network of UFO Investigators. P. 112.
A CATALOGUE OF PRE 24 JUNE 1947 AUSTRALIAN UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL PHENOMENA
Also quite a few pre -1947 reports of unknown objects submerging into (or emerging from) the world's oceans found in USO archives and below are a few potential disc shape candidates
Quote:1943: Persian Gulf
Seaman Matthew Mangle, from the bow of his ship, sighted a huge disc beneath the surface of the water. The object, glowing with a soft, greenish light, paced the ship at about 12 knots before speeding up and moving out of sight.
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Feb 26, 1942
When in the Timor Sea, the cruiser Tromp was approached by a large aluminum disc that flew at tremendous speed. It then circled the Dutch vessel for about three to four hours. Finally, it flew off at an estimated speed of 3,000-3,5000mph.
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1945
Object witnessed by crew emerging from ocean aboard the U.S. attack transport 'Delarof':
Summer of 1945; Aleutian Islands
A large UFO was seen by crew members of the U.S. Army Transport Delarof which had been hauling munitions and supplies to Alaska. Robert S. Crawford was serving as one of the Army radiomen aboard. The attack transport ship, heading back to Seattle, was in the open sea past Adak. Crawford was on the port side near the radio room when he heard shouts from some of the crew. He turned and saw a large, round object which had just emerged from the sea..
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May. 15, 1879
Persian Gulf. Two very large "wheels" were seen spinning in the air and slowly coming to the surface of the sea. Estimated diameter: 40 m. Distance between the objects: 150 m. Speed: 80 km/h/ Duration: 35 min. Witnesses aboard the ship "Vultur"
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1929 - Saucer/Disc
..about a sponge diver in his home town of Tarpon Springs, Florida. It seems that an old Greek sponge diver back in 1929 was underwater doing his sponging in his old-type sponge diver’s suit and helmet, and as he looked up from what he was doing, he saw a saucer-shaped silver disk fly by him under water with lights on it, and then it flew by him again, this time in the other direction.
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1910 The Danish Meteorological Institute
Capt. Breyer of the Dutch steamer Valentijn was in the South China Sea, midnight, Aug. 12, 1910, he saw a rotation of flashes. "It looked like a horizontal wheel, turning rapidly." This time it is said that the appearance was above water. "The phenomenon was observed by the captain, the first and second mates, and the first engineer, and upon all of them it made a somewhat uncomfortable.