12-15-2023, 01:11 PM
This post was last modified 12-15-2023, 01:22 PM by IdeomotorPrisoner. 
(12-14-2023, 07:49 PM)Lysergic Wrote: Some version of the Noah's Ark story exists in almost every religion and every culture on Earth.It's a fun story. I think destruction/creation stories are just universal. Parallel thought, not plagiarism.
But did Noah and the Ark really exist?
There's evidence that they did.
So much evidence, that it was classified by the CIA for almost 50 years.
But why classify it? Well, there are two problems with the Noah's Ark story. One, the Ark is much older than anyone thought. And two, the man named Noah? He wasn't a man. At least, not a man from Earth.
But the story is ridiculous. His age, and biblical ages in general, I attribute to Lazy writing in the second temple. They had to make it go back far enough in their own time to predate Sumeria and Gilgamesh.
I'm wondering how that old guy kept 95% of the animals from eating each-other? Gigamesh only had to keep track of beer and livestock.
I think the post exilic jews were a little, call it ambitious, with their narrative, and didn't consider the absurdities of some of the technical portions.
Always get a picture of a dome formation in Turkey too. The same one too. That fold formation looks like a upside down boat hull!
And then the water requirements. And I'm not even sold Moses, Abraham, or Noah even existed. Maybe Saul onward. Anyone that existed concurrent with Hebrew settlements I'll believe existed in some form.
So I take a completely different parable from the flood stories, one possibly derived from genetic memory itself, population bottlenecks happen. 72k years isn't that far back really. There were more hominid species still alive, but Lake Toba affected everyone. 4 times larger than Yellowstone.
Some estimates put the entire human population to as few as a few thousand breeding pairs in the volcanic winter that followed. That's the type of event that gets committed to memory.
I think it's human recognition in the potential for instant depopulation at any moment. A lingering instinctual fear that something catastrophic can happen. I think the "for sin" part is not enough of a reason to fear the watcher.