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09-24-2025, 10:12 AM
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The writings of Atlantis are all steeped in mythological gods and a blatant lack of anyone knowing anything about geology.
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THEOPOMPUS"
The account survives in Aelian's Various History [3.18].
" Amongst other things," we are told, " Silenus told Midas that Europe, Asia and Africa were islands surrounded by the ocean: that there was but one continent only, which was beyond this world, and that as to magnitude it was infinite." In the island were " men twice as big as those here" who " lived to double our age," echoing tales of the Macrobians of southernmost Ethiopia."
"One possible explanation of Theopompus' account is that it is a mockery of Plato's Atlantis.
In both accounts we meet substantial military forces possessed of vast amounts of material wealth. Additionally, Theopompus, in all likelihood a student of Plato's great rival Isocrates, was a fierce critic of Plato, writing a polemic against him."
Who else wrote about Atlantis?
Isocrates - Wikipedia
Should we now be looking in the southernmost regions of Ethiopia?
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(09-24-2025, 08:19 AM)quintessentone Wrote: The earliest recorded archive of written materials comes from the ancient Sumerian city-state of Uruk in around 3400 BC, when writing had only just begun to develop.
So why do you expect to read a tale of a long lost civilization in other works, when Atlantis existed at minimum 2500 years before Writing was established??? This logic fails. It only works if Writing was established before Atlantis existed.... And if there were some writing done in those days, it would have belonged strictly to the gods...
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(09-24-2025, 12:10 PM)All Seeing Eye Wrote: So why do you expect to read a tale of a long lost civilization in other works, when Atlantis existed at minimum 2500 years before Writing was established??? This logic fails. It only works if Writing was established before Atlantis existed.... And if there were some writing done in those days, it would have belonged strictly to the gods...
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Yet you want to believe Plato's allegory or truth-telling of Atlantis. Where is the logic in that?
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09-24-2025, 09:16 PM
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(09-24-2025, 12:17 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Yet you want to believe Plato's allegory or truth-telling of Atlantis. Where is the logic in that?
allegory, with evidence.
Again.....
I must have reached my image limit per post, so sad...
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(09-24-2025, 09:16 PM)All Seeing Eye Wrote: allegory, with evidence.
Again.....
I must have reached my image limit per post, so sad...
Do we have an image limit? If so, then I'm in trouble with the post a funny meme thread.
Well, it's not my place to sway you one way or the other. All I can do if offer my opinion after I consider what looks to be factual information, but with most things, it's all in the eye of the beholder.
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(09-25-2025, 04:09 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Do we have an image limit? If so, then I'm in trouble with the post a funny meme thread.
Well, it's not my place to sway you one way or the other. All I can do if offer my opinion after I consider what looks to be factual information, but with most things, it's all in the eye of the beholder.
I dont know, I had some really bad internet service last night. Nothing was working right, lucky I got a post off at all.
Opinion are good when offered constructively and openly. In the Eye of the beholder, well, depends on what that Eye is willing to look at, and consider.
It is a fact that there lays a un named prehistoric civilization in and around Mauritania. It was a united society via a road network and a certain type of pie shaped structures that appear around the ruins and general area. There are two of these Pie structures in the Second Ring of the Richat which would tie this society, to the Rings...
It is from the Preponderance of this information that I conclude this area must be the highest contender to be the Lost Ringed City of Atlantis. Not from reading or not reading Plato, or any other Author, but solely from the preponderance of the evidence on the ground.
As far as timeline is concerned it is virtually impossible for a culture as large as this one could have thrived and survived in a purely desert condition is unthinkable. Therefore, it must have existed during the African Humid Period where it is now being documented this area had lakes, and yes, a inland sea. One where the ringed city could have easily sunk into, temporarily, until the waters evaporated away, at the end of the AHP. 5500BC.
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(09-25-2025, 08:02 AM)All Seeing Eye Wrote: I dont know, I had some really bad internet service last night. Nothing was working right, lucky I got a post off at all.
Opinion are good when offered constructively and openly. In the Eye of the beholder, well, depends on what that Eye is willing to look at, and consider.
It is a fact that there lays a un named prehistoric civilization in and around Mauritania. It was a united society via a road network and a certain type of pie shaped structures that appear around the ruins and general area. There are two of these Pie structures in the Second Ring of the Richat which would tie this society, to the Rings...
It is from the Preponderance of this information that I conclude this area must be the highest contender to be the Lost Ringed City of Atlantis. Not from reading or not reading Plato, or any other Author, but solely from the preponderance of the evidence on the ground.
As far as timeline is concerned it is virtually impossible for a culture as large as this one could have thrived and survived in a purely desert condition is unthinkable. Therefore, it must have existed during the African Humid Period where it is now being documented this area had lakes, and yes, a inland sea. One where the ringed city could have easily sunk into, temporarily, until the waters evaporated away, at the end of the AHP. 5500BC.
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Well I think in this case LIDAR tech is necessary to get a better look. Maybe after that, I will have another look with eyes wide open.
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(09-24-2025, 07:50 AM)All Seeing Eye Wrote: You have absolutely no basis to make this assumption, and in fact, the evidence exposes the complete opposite. The Svalbard Global Seed Vault is proof of earth shattering events, and the planning to survive. You wrote abunch of interest stuff but completely unreated to what I said: Here is what I stated: There were no great societal shifts when we found out about the Sumerians, Minoans, or others in the old world or the Spanish ran into the Aztec, Inca, Maya etc. Nothing collapsed when we found those worlds.
As to the other points. I'll comment later. However in general we have no evidence of additional prior civilizations - civilizations we have found leave massive archaeological footpints - are they possible? yes, are the probable? no, are they plausible yes. The Eemian or EEK as I call it is a period, I became interested in long ago. I have made it a side project since I took Anthropology 200 in September 1972 at the University of Hawaii from Dr. Stephen T Boggs - my first class actually.
Eemian - Wikipedia
I thought if there was a flowering of civilization at the end of the last ice age what were the chances that one had begun at the end of the previous ice age, the Eemian about 130,000 years ago.
I looked and have been looking since that time. What I am looking for is a ‘Civilization’ we would classify as a culture. A HG group that has become sedentary developing a food strategy based on extraction of sea food, undomesticated herd animals and selected proto-agriculture (scattering grains in specific areas but not tending them then returning at a known time to harvest) as found at Gilgal I.
I hoped they might even had gotten to the Catalhuyuck level, the Olmec or perhaps Gilgal or similar sites. I’ve looked at moraines, middens, sedimentation studies, oddities within stone tool industries and looking for a violation of Dunbar’s number, geology studies and reading reports of maritime and coastal archaeology. Nothing so far, not even a glimmer. I've read several thousand papers in this search and local archaeological searches when working in Europe, North America and the Middle East - Nada, but I continue the quest
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(09-24-2025, 12:10 PM)All Seeing Eye Wrote: So why do you expect to read a tale of a long lost civilization in other works, when Atlantis existed at minimum 2500 years before Writing was established??? This logic fails. It only works if Writing was established before Atlantis existed.... And if there were some writing done in those days, it would have belonged strictly to the gods...
If you read the dialogues like you claimed, you would know that Critias got the story 3rd hand (via his grandfather) from Solon, who had himself gotten it from the Egyptians around 500 BC.
The Egyptians had been writing quite well for over 2,000 years at that time.
Maybe that's why we should expect to read it.
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