Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[Oldcarpy2]

Here is why America is so bullish on Trump

44% of Americans say the country is headed in the right direction, the last time it hit 44% or higher was January 2004.

Considering that was in the halcyon days of American unity early after 9/11, this bodes well for Trump. It seems the rest of the world can get pissy all they want, for 44% of the normally over-reactionary, skeptical, paranoid, neurotic, self-absorbed, anti-social Americans to agree on such a broad term in a supposedly divided country is a huge positive for Trump's 2nd term. 



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Maybe, but the stock market seems to be rather less than bullish:

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/marke...pagne.html

"Figures from UK investment platform Hargreaves Lansdown have illustrated the sharp change in sentiment as the ‘Trump bump’ turns into the ‘Trump slump’.

The report showed investors’ confidence in North America has slid by 17 per cent this month while increasing dramatically in Europe – by 48 per cent – and in the UK – by 16 per cent."

Gold is on a high, too.

[putnam6]

Maybe, but the stock market seems to be rather less than bullish:

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/marke...pagne.html

"Figures from UK investment platform Hargreaves Lansdown have illustrated the sharp change in sentiment as the ‘Trump bump’ turns into the ‘Trump slump’.

The report showed investors’ confidence in North America has slid by 17 per cent this month while increasing dramatically in Europe – by 48 per cent – and in the UK – by 16 per cent."

Gold is on a high, too.

LOL is that all you have is the stock market...and let me guess you are hoping Wall Street crashes ....

Generally, don't sweat the short-term; the long-term stage is being set for a meteoric rise.

And yes, for our small business, after the last 4-5 years, we are still enjoying a slow, steady rise if we can maintain these numbers until June. Our industry is usually sensitive to the stock market, but so far it’s the best quarter in a long time and the best first quarter in over a decade, which is incredibly encouraging.  For a business that lost 400 accounts during COVID lockdowns our only saving grace is we have fewer competitors than before, so it's a smaller pie but we get a larger slice 

Here are a couple of quotes that seem to make sense,

do I know for sure? no, I do not

but again we will see, we are in uncharted waters and using methods not exactly used on this level

https://x.com/Patriotmom717/status/1899484565481087136

 $7 Trillion US Debt is the reason Why Trump Wants Stocks market to Crash hard. His playbook : Crash Stocks, Pump Bond market and Force Rate Cuts. Let me explain - The US government has to refinance $7 trillion of debt in the next 6 months. There is no way TRUMP wants to refinance it at current 10-yr yields so this is why he wants stock market tocrash pump the bond prices. As bond prices will go up, yields will come down and the US government will be able to refinance their debt at cheap rate. Not only that, lower bond yields will also push the fed to do rate cuts which is bullish for risk-on assets. Don’t panic over the short term and look at the longer picture. Bull market is not over, mega pump is still coming.

 
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Cas Abbé

@cas_abbe
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Mar 13
Trump is clearly telling his plans. He doesn't care about the stock market or the crypto market. All he cares about is that interest rates to go down which will definitely cause some short-term pain. This reminds me of Q4 2021 when Powell was calling for higher rates and nobody listened. And guess what happened? The FED started hiking interest rates and the markets crashed. This time, you need to understand Trump's plan.

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[Oldcarpy2]

"LOL is that all you have is the stock market...and let me guess you are hoping Wall Street crashes ...."

No. Why would I hope for that?

Your economy is tanking, Musk is sacking loads of folk, crippling key public services, you are accusing your longstanding allies of ripping you off, destabilizing NATO, cutting your military and appeasing Putin.

You want to invade Canada and Greenland.

Started ruinous trade Wars.

But it's all good, so good?

'This time, you need to understand Trump's plan."

I don't think he has one.

A Tik Tok video? From some random young lady?!!!!

[putnam6]

"LOL is that all you have is the stock market...and let me guess you are hoping Wall Street crashes ...."

No. Why would I hope for that?

Your economy is tanking, Musk is sacking loads of folk, crippling key public services, you are accusing your longstanding allies of ripping you off, destabilizing NATO, cutting your military and appeasing Putin.

You want to invade Canada and Greenland.

Started ruinous trade Wars.

But it's all good, so good?

'This time, you need to understand Trump's plan."

I don't think he has one.

A Tik Tok video? From some random young lady?!!!!

You are emotionally all over the place frantically whinging about Musk, Trade wars, and invading Canada and Greenland, and Im supposed to listening to this unbalanced sexist viewpoint instead of the common woman cooly and calmly explaining her very salient points of view



Is that what this is are Brits so submerged and downtrodden that they believe the common man or woman can't understand the intricacies of economics the stock market etc. Where exactly is she wrong?

[FlyersFan]

Maybe, but the stock market seems to be rather less than bullish:

It's just a one week correction. 
They happen from time to time.
It's already coming back up.
Came up more than 600+ points Friday.
It's an opportunity market right now.

And No ... the 'economy isn't tanking' (your words).
A tanking economy would be more than just a one week 10% DOW correction.
The DOW would have to be more than 20% down and more than just one week.
And all the other economic indicators like inflation etc would have to be massively effected.
They aren't.

I don't think you've taken any economic courses, certainly not any that 
deal with the American economy.  You might not want to armchair it from
across the ocean like that.  You missed.

Sorry Carpy .. I like you and all .. but you are way off.

[Oldcarpy2]

I have an "A" level in economics and in my 1st year at University I studied Law and Economics before switching to straight Law.

International economics, not just UK.

Also studied international law, including treaties.

Trade Wars always have ended badly.

Fortune says:

https://fortune.com/2025/03/15/stagflati...e-layoffs/

"Additional data points could raise alarms about stagflation, a combination of slower growth or contraction plus higher inflation.

The survey found that just 12% of owners think now is a good time to expand, a 5-point decline from January and the largest monthly decrease since April 2020—when the economy was still reeling from the early stages of the COVID-19 pandemic."

[Oldcarpy2]

"Is that what this is are Brits so submerged and downtrodden that they believe the common man or woman can't understand the intricacies of economics the stock market etc. Where exactly is she wrong?"

Please stop your Brit bashing.

Random Tik Tok folk do not cut it.

How about Fortune articles, instead?

[FlyersFan]

I have an "A" level in economics and in my 1st year at University I studied Law and Economics before switching to straight Law.

International economics, not just UK.

And you are still wrong.
A one week 10% DOW drop is just a correction.
That's it.   And yes, that's the economic term for it.

For the economy to be "tanking" you'd need a 20% DOW drop recession
along with other indicators such as inflation and interest rates etc ...

If those other indicators come online and the DOW drops 20%
then you would be right that we are in a recession and the economy 'tanked'.

The cuts Trump and Musk are making are necessary.   Cutting the fat.  Getting 
rid of waste fraud and abuse.   There is ZERO reason to continue to pay for all
that.    Past presidents such as Bill Clinton and Barack Obama have called for
the same kind of cuts, and Clinton even got as far as laying off 400,000 federal
workers, but neither of them were able to get much done other than that.

Trump and Musk are actually getting done what Clinton and Obama called for. 
Gone are the days when American
tax payers are paying hundreds of millions of dollars to pay for drag queen shows
in Ireland or for trans comic books in Peru or for gas stations in Afghanistan that
are made of sand and melt in the rain.

[putnam6]

I have an "A" level in economics and in my 1st year at University I studied Law and Economics before switching to straight Law.

International economics, not just UK.

Also studied international law, including treaties.

Trade Wars always have ended badly.

Fortune says:

https://fortune.com/2025/03/15/stagflati...e-layoffs/

"Additional data points could raise alarms about stagflation, a combination of slower growth or contraction plus higher inflation.

The survey found that just 12% of owners think now is a good time to expand, a 5-point decline from January and the largest monthly decrease since April 2020—when the economy was still reeling from the early stages of the COVID-19 pandemic."

I have an "A" level in economics and in my 1st year at University I studied Law and Economics before switching to straight Law.
International economics, not just UK.
Also studied international law, including treaties.

Well, no wonder, that explains a lot...



I prefer Forbes

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamsarhan/...ket-react/
 

The End Goal: Best-Case ScenarioMany people are asking, what is the end goal for Trump’s tariffs? In its most optimistic outcome, Trump’s tariff strategy aims to achieve several ambitious objectives that could transform the U.S. economy. By imposing high import taxes, the administration hopes to incentivize companies to relocate their manufacturing operations back to American soil. This reshoring effort could lead to job creation in key industries like steel production, automotive manufacturing, and electronics assembly—revitalizing regions that have suffered from industrial decline over decades.
Additionally, tariff revenues are intended to offset substantial tax cuts proposed by Trump’s administration, including exemptions for workers’ tips and Social Security earnings as well as reductions in corporate tax rates. If successful, this approach could reduce reliance on income taxes while maintaining government funding levels.
On a geopolitical level, Trump wants to use tariffs as leverage in negotiations with foreign powers—replacing sanctions that often alienate countries from the dollar-based financial system. For example, tariffs could compel trading partners to address issues such as illegal migration or drug trafficking without resorting to more punitive measures.
In this best-case scenario, the combined effect of reshoring manufacturing jobs, generating tariff revenue for tax relief, and securing diplomatic concessions would position the United States as a stronger economic power while reducing dependency on foreign nations like China.

 
Revenue Generation Vs. Economic DragThe administration argues that tariff revenue will help fund tax cuts and reduce reliance on income taxes. This approach risks undermining consumer spending—a critical driver of economic growth—if households face rising prices. Inflation is already a problem, even higher prices, could be the economic tipping point.
Supply Chain Disruptions: Supply chains might be impacted—again. Industries dependent on imported components may struggle to adapt quickly, leading to shortages, production delays, or higher costs.
ConclusionThere is a case that this works out well and there’s a possibility it doesn’t.
Just about every decision in life has consequences, short and long term consequences. I’m interested to see both the short and long term consequences of the tariffs.
As mentioned above, there is a bullish outcome here if everything goes according to Trump’s plan. However, if it doesn’t, things can get ugly, fast. Right now, Trump’s aggressive use of tariffs marks a sharp departure from decades of free-trade policies that prioritized free global trade over protectionism.
While his administration hopes these measures will revitalize American manufacturing and generate revenue for tax cuts, they also carry significant risks for both the U.S. stock market and broader economy. Nobody knows what will happen for sure but there is a clear case that we can have short-term pain and long-term gain on the other side of this. Only time will tell

Back on topic. Negotiations to end the war continue

 
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OSINTdefender

@sentdefender
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6h

While talking to reporters tonight aboard Air Force One, while returning to Washington from his weekend in Florida, U.S. President Donald J. Trump said that he would speak on Tuesday with Russian President Vladimir Putin about ending the war in Ukraine, “We will see if we have something to announce maybe by Tuesday. I will be speaking to President Putin on Tuesday. A lot of work’s been done over the weekend. We want to see if we can bring that war to an end.” Adding that he will be speaking to President Putin about “land — and power plants” describing it as “dividing up certain assets.”

[chr0naut]

I can't understand how Trump thought that he could end the wars in Gaza or Ukraine?

Can someone explain it to me?

If he pulls US support of NATO then I imagine all those European countries will want to take control of former US bases in their territories, because they aren't going to want to be undefended against aggressive neighbours.

So the US looses power and shrinks.

Just about everything Trump is doing makes the USA less and less relevant to the rest of the world.

I can't understand his thinking?

How do companies in the private sector within the US get seed capital required to kick off US manufacture and production, if everything is suddenly too expensive to afford because of tariffs? They can't get it from other US companies that are in the same predicament.

Trump is already saying that a trade war could cause a recession.

How do you get out of recessesion if nobody can afford anything?