California wildfires

[KKLoco]

All the more reason to tackle man made climate change and to NOT drill-drill-drill.

Please show us all, just where are Southern Californians going to charge their EV’s today……… 

Your argument just fell flat on its face.

[xuenchen]

All the more reason to tackle man made climate change and to NOT drill-drill-drill.

. . . and give the world a 90% bankruptcy rate!!

Plus there's no proof "Man" is causing any Climate Changes.

Earth changes are 10 million times stronger than "Man" 

If anybody proved anything over the last 50 years, they would have fixed it all by now right?

[putnam6]

Even the Fire Chief admits losing the 17 million hurt the department's effectiveness.

One area lost two the budget cuts, more on-demand civilian mechanics to fix the over 100 out of commission trucks and other vehicles, just waiting to be repaired 

https://x.com/DogRightGirl/status/1877885841227370648

[xuenchen]

Oh Goodie Goodie Gumdrops!

Climate be DAMNED! 

Governor Newsom signs executive order to help Los Angeles rebuild faster and stronger

 
Governor Gavin Newsom today signed an executive order to suspend permitting and review requirements under the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) and the California Coastal Act to allow victims of the recent fires to restore their homes and businesses faster.
“When the fires are extinguished, victims who have lost their homes and businesses must be able to rebuild quickly and without roadblocks. The executive order I signed today will help cut permitting delays, an important first step in allowing our communities to recover faster and stronger. I’ve also ordered our state agencies to identify additional ways to streamline the rebuilding and recovery process.” -Governor Gavin Newsom 

[KKLoco]

Oh Goodie Goodie Gumdrops!

Climate be DAMNED! 

Governor Newsom signs executive order to help Los Angeles rebuild faster and stronger

So does this mean people will be able to bypass the mandatory EV charging stations? I’m in AZ and that shit even found it’s way here….

[EXETER]

Crazy that a country can be so powerful around the globe and yet can't put out a fire in it's own back yard.

So much failure. Things must change.

We can definitely put out "a fire" in our own backyard.  The conflagration in Southern isn't just a fire, it's a fire storm.

We can't "put out" tornados in Kansas, Hurricanes in Florida, or Tsunamis in Hawaii either.  And for the same reason.  They are all forces of nature.  

That's not going to change with any change in politicians who happen to hold office at any point in time.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

How can this be ? 

And we have lost way more property than with DeSantis' hurricanes.

Standard rant disclaimer..

Newsom's fires? Now while I knew he was everyone's Satan incarnate I didn't know he was capable of moving pressure systems and making it not rain and be above average temperatures.

For all the denial of climate change going on, people seem to forget we are on fire in our rainy season. Santa Anas rare January appearance. While La Nina generally keeps us drier, no rain by Mid-January is rare.

As rare as the total 31 inches LA got in the 2022-2023 water year. That seems odd The swings are getting extreme when they happen.

But let's play a climate game.

Let's play the game "Hottest year ever."

It's like the racist game where you put in Google, "_______ is racist." And laugh at the results.

Essentially you put in ANY global location and say "Hottest year ever in ________."

99% of results are after 2015.

If it's cycle, a natural cycle, as people want to say, it's one that's still going to be bipolar and flood coastlines within 75 years. The Hottest years ever will keep current as the swings become more pronounced. Polar vorticies and 22 in Orlando will become as yearly as high pressure domes and 112 in Vancouver.

A changing climate changes violently through rampant swings that have significant sigma variance from expected averages.

That's all out climate is the past decade. Violent swings between hot and cold.

And that's why this is annoying. It's like a concerted effort to blame liberal leadership before liberals can blame climate change.

To make sure everyone blames liberal leaders for daring to defund the first responders for their woke DEI initiatives. Now the LA mayor is the first female Ray Nagen, and her DEI hire fire chief is a freaking martyr.

Which if funny, because if NO FUNDING WAS CUT, everyone would be saying, "They failed because the fire chief was a DEI hire." Like the first female secret service chief.

But because funding was cut everyone's going to tiptoe around she is the type of appointment, IN ANY OTHER CONTEXT, that would be called out for being under qualified. Where is that now? Is it not useful this time or something?

It's the lane-switching of convenience that drives me up a wall.. A catch 22 of anger and venting that will ALWAYS find a way to blame it on the other party. It's a baffling incongruity.

Let me just say that again. Had 2% of LAFDs budget not been cut, or even expanded, or the reservoir wasn't being repaired, the fault would lie squarely on the LA Fire Chief being a DEI hire and underqualified, just like it was with the SS Chief. No two ways about it.

That's what is actually rigged, this criticism of liberals, is rigged to be on a permanent attack and always be correct in some way shape of form.

[Oldcarpy2]

It's sad that these natural disasters get politicized by partisan division.

All those affected are American citizens and it would be nice to see the US pulling together without all the political points scoring and sniping.

My thoughts are with those whose homes and life's have been devastated, not with politicians and their blindly loyal supporters trying to make political capital out of it.

[putnam6]

It's sad that these natural disasters get politicized by partisan division.

All those affected are American citizens and it would be nice to see the US pulling together without all the political points scoring and sniping.

My thoughts are with those whose homes and life's have been devastated, not with politicians and their blindly loyal supporters trying to make political capital out of it.

Yeah, I don't know, this isn't something new, people react differently to stressors. Some will question TPTB and others will be willing to get vaccinated no questions asked. 

Dubya got skewered over FEMA's Katrina response, hell for Andrew in 1991 Florida's then Governor Chiles got skewered. FWIW such a fervor led to Florida continuing to strengthen construction regulations to help mitigate 'some"issues. ie it's part of the process.

Disaster, response, criticism, new legislation much later, etc. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Andrew

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) was criticized for its slow response in both Florida and Louisiana. Even a month prior to Andrew, the House Committee on Appropriations – which oversees the budget for FEMA – released a report calling the agency a "political dumping ground" and a "turkey farm" due to its "weak, inexperienced leaders". Congressman S. William Green of New York, a member of the Appropriations Committee, stated that he believed the agency learned little from its botched response to Hurricane Hugo in 1989. However, Green also criticized local officials for expecting "them [FEMA] to come and run the whole show". Some FEMA officials responded that it was impossible to respond as they had been requested while also continuing to provide aid for the Los Angeles riots. FEMA spokesman Grant Peterson stated, "24 hours is not reasonable to expect to have all the resources of the federal government landing in the middle of a disaster."[sup][108][/sup] Some responsibility for the slow response must rest with Florida Governor Lawton Chiles, who waited five days to submit the formal request for Federal assistance that FEMA officials believed was required before they were empowered to act.[sup][109][/sup]

[putnam6]

And we have lost way more property than with DeSantis' hurricanes.

Standard rant disclaimer..

Newsom's fires? Now while I knew he was everyone's Satan incarnate I didn't know he was capable of moving pressure systems and making it not rain and be above average temperatures.

For all the denial of climate change going on, people seem to forget we are on fire in our rainy season. Santa Anas rare January appearance. While La Nina generally keeps us drier, no rain by Mid-January is rare.

As rare as the total 31 inches LA got in the 2022-2023 water year. That seems odd The swings are getting extreme when they happen.

But let's play a climate game.

Let's play the game "Hottest year ever."

It's like the racist game where you put in Google, "_______ is racist." And laugh at the results.

Essentially you put in ANY global location and say "Hottest year ever in ________."

99% of results are after 2015.

If it's cycle, a natural cycle, as people want to say, it's one that's still going to be bipolar and flood coastlines within 75 years. The Hottest years ever will keep current as the swings become more pronounced. Polar vorticies and 22 in Orlando will become as yearly as high pressure domes and 112 in Vancouver.

A changing climate changes violently through rampant swings that have significant sigma variance from expected averages.

That's all out climate is the past decade. Violent swings between hot and cold.

And that's why this is annoying. It's like a concerted effort to blame liberal leadership before liberals can blame climate change.

To make sure everyone blames liberal leaders for daring to defund the first responders for their woke DEI initiatives. Now the LA mayor is the first female Ray Nagen, and her DEI hire fire chief is a freaking martyr.

Which if funny, because if NO FUNDING WAS CUT, everyone would be saying, "They failed because the fire chief was a DEI hire." Like the first female secret service chief.

But because funding was cut everyone's going to tiptoe around she is the type of appointment, IN ANY OTHER CONTEXT, that would be called out for being under qualified. Where is that now? Is it not useful this time or something?

It's the lane-switching of convenience that drives me up a wall.. A catch 22 of anger and venting that will ALWAYS find a way to blame it on the other party. It's a baffling incongruity.

Let me just say that again. Had 2% of LAFDs budget not been cut, or even expanded, or the reservoir wasn't being repaired, the fault would lie squarely on the LA Fire Chief being a DEI hire and underqualified, just like it was with the SS Chief. No two ways about it.

That's what is actually rigged, this criticism of liberals, is rigged to be on a permanent attack and always be correct in some way shape of form.

Yeah, Im just discussing the topic, Im not saying suggesting or inferring the fires would be taken care of better if Arhhhhnold was still Governor. 

That said it's human nature to look intently at those in power when a crisis hits, it's the nature of the beast. 



Can't take the heat get out of the kitchen... I got no problem with women firefighters but equality means you are gonna catch shit just like any other person in that position, Justified or not.

The DEI shit is just another string for them to pull, but it's 2025 what do people expect?