Trump shot?

[KKLoco]

[k0rn]

Can we put a poll? Inside job or not

[RuchardHurt]

Can we put a poll? Inside job or not

We all watched 9/11 take place live or in person. We all witnessed how fast certain footage and audio was mostly scrubbed. With that in mind, this incident and other pieces of evidence took much longer. That tells me that the government learned lessons and we will just never know the true story. Cover up or not does not matter now. What matters is that the objective to disrupt worked. It did not matter if a life was taken or not. Sadly though life was taken. And yet we are focused on what whoever did this wanted us focused on for whatever reason.
What happens because of this is what we should be concerned about.

[727Sky]

Perfect example of government ineptitude  or.... a government assassination attempt gone wrong..... ineptitude on display in either case.

[MykeNukem]

Can we put a poll? Inside job or not

Nah, lies, damned lies, polls, in that order...

Besides, the poll will be down the middle, there is no room for discussion in the new political paradigm..

Just MO.

 

[Maxmars]

Although interest is waning in the thread... I thought I would add this little bit to the account:

From Fox News: FBI fires back at claims it released Crooks' body for cremation days after Trump assassination attempt

Reportedly, The would-be assassin's remains were release for cremation just 10 days after the crime was attempted... which does seem strangely accelerated considering the magnitude of the event.  But then, would there have been anything else to learn after the autopsy had been performed?
 

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The FBI has fired back at claims by a GOP congressman that the agency released the body of Thomas Matthew Crooks for cremation just 10 days after his assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, last month.

The agency says it refutes allegations by Rep. Clay Higgins, R-La., who says that when he requested to view Crooks' body on Aug. 5, nobody on the ground in Butler knew it had been handed back to the suspect's family on July 23. Higgins said the revelation "caused quite a stir and revealed a disturbing fact."

Higgins, a former police chief, is looking into the deadly July 13 incident as part of a bi-partisan congressional task force and made the claims in a stunning preliminary report which is highly critical of the FBI’s investigation into the matter. Higgins says the releasing of the body, and other claims of bad practice leveled at the FBI, amounts to an "obstruction to any following investigative effort."

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I'm uncertain of the claim that the FBI "cleaned-up" the location around the body before the police had finished collecting evidence... it seems a rather extreme claim.
 

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"They had to know that releasing the J13 crime scene would injure the immediate observations of any following investigation," Higgins writes. 

Higgins also alleges that the FBI cleaned up biological evidence from the crime scene, which he says is "unheard of." 

"Cops don’t do that, ever," Higgins writes.

But the FBI also hit back against those claims, telling Fox News Digital that the crime scene was released to the property owners in phases and that "nothing was rushed and everything was documented as part of the investigation."

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Add to that the fact that the coroner's report was a week late.... you can imagine how that went over...

[l0st]

The Fox segment covers the highlights from the bodycams pretty well. Its interesting that they apparently had been looking for this guy since earlier in the day but couldn't find him. Sounds like a total lack of security on the premises. Even the one officer was saying that he had told Secret Service that the roof the shooter was on needed coverage, but nobody was assigned there.

Of course, my opinion is that there is conspiracy here. I just simply can't believe that "it was all a mistake" and "they couldn't find him". Hell, I've seen the Police pull out Helicopters for a DUI suspect. Potential Presidential re-elect? Meh, what coverage is needed? Let's face it, this was almost Kennedy 2.0.

The lack of proper investigation at Federal level and the sweeping under the rug of the story by the media I find very telling. This whole event should be on the news every single day until we have some actual answers.

I wasn't around at the time, does anyone remember the coverage following the Kennedy assassination? I imagine that event was in the news for weeks if not months.

[Maxmars]

The Fox segment covers the highlights from the bodycams pretty well. Its interesting that they apparently had been looking for this guy since earlier in the day but couldn't find him. Sounds like a total lack of security on the premises. Even the one officer was saying that he had told Secret Service that the roof the shooter was on needed coverage, but nobody was assigned there.

Of course, my opinion is that there is conspiracy here. I just simply can't believe that "it was all a mistake" and "they couldn't find him". Hell, I've seen the Police pull out Helicopters for a DUI suspect. Potential Presidential re-elect? Meh, what coverage is needed? Let's face it, this was almost Kennedy 2.0.

The lack of proper investigation at Federal level and the sweeping under the rug of the story by the media I find very telling. This whole event should be on the news every single day until we have some actual answers.

I wasn't around at the time, does anyone remember the coverage following the Kennedy assassination? I imagine that event was in the news for weeks if not months.

The coverage lasted far longer than the establishment wanted it too.  The biggest fear can be characterized with one word... "Coup."

But back then most were too distracted by "commies" and all manner of "pinko threats" and it was all too easy to make it about that, than face the possibility that the true "threat" was from inside our own halls of "honorable" power.

The Warren report was clearly the result of the institutional shame.

(my opinion only.)

[l0st]

The coverage lasted far longer than the establishment wanted it too.  The biggest fear can be characterized with one word... "Coup."

But back then most were too distracted by "commies" and all manner of "pinko threats" and it was all too easy to make it about that, than face the possibility that the true "threat" was from inside our own halls of "honorable" power.

The Warren report was clearly the result of the institutional shame.

(my opinion only.)

The thing is, we're not even getting a commission this time. We've got 2 people on a house "taskforce" subcommittee that are supposed to hand over a report in December. Seems like a pretty weak response to an attempted assassination of a former President and Candidate. I think we got longer and more in-depth investigations for Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, the Pee Pee tapes, and the Russian Dossier.

[Maxmars]

The thing is, we're not even getting a commission this time. We've got 2 people on a house "taskforce" subcommittee that are supposed to hand over a report in December. Seems like a pretty weak response to an attempted assassination of a former President and Candidate. I think we got longer and more in-depth investigations for Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, the Pee Pee tapes, and the Russian Dossier.

Yes, it is kind of disappointing... but not surprising that the 'corpus' of the establishment prefers to "produce" narratives over actually "reporting" facts to the people.  "Appearances are everything" politicians often resound, as if it were a mantra of "success."  That fact is usually where I hang my hat on resistance to "official" narratives offered up by the establishment or their "appointed" lap dogs and "contracted" media servants (let alone politicians themselves.)

Interestingly, there has yet to appear what I had expected... the usual "conspiracy theorist" negative trope...  I expected much more open and direct media 'echoes' of the admonishment to "the public" to "not listen to that voice from slimy basement dwellers living off their parents largesse."  Sadly (for them,) the group of people who DO scrutinize the event are not confrontable that way, it might seem.  We are now so often correct that it is counter-productive to pretend you rely on "branding" conspiracy theorists.

Insofar as the Trump assassination attempt, if you were here at the time, you would have quickly realized that you were better informed than almost ANY talking head out there.