(09-22-2025, 07:16 PM)Vermilion Wrote: ⚠️ public execution ⚠️
As a first gesture following the recognition of a "state of palestine" by the UK, Canada and Australia, Hamas publicly executed three Gazans accused of collaboration with Israel!

* the clip contains the moments before the killing *
https://x.com/HamasAtrocities/status/196...3095688639

This is what a palestinian state looks like.
Which I guess isn't as bad somehow and we should not care as much?
Because they’re the real victims, right?

I thought they all got genocided, guess they are still for killing Jews and Jewish collaborators.

Personal opinion: Fuck the palestinians.

(09-22-2025, 07:33 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Personal opinion: Fuck the palestinians.

Here is Trump Peace-to-Prosperity plan, released today! I don't think it mentions copulation, but perhaps there's will be an addendum!

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-...y-0120.pdf (181 page PDF)

Quote:Sovereignty is an amorphous concept that has evolved over time. With growing interdependence, each nation chooses to interact with other nations by entering into agreements that set parameters essential to each nation. The notion that sovereignty is a static and consistently defined term has been an unnecessary stumbling block in past negotiations. Pragmatic and operational concerns that effect security and prosperity are what is most important.

Haha that is a no!

Quote:Later, at the White House, Mr. Trump warned that if the group did not agree, Israel would have his “full backing” to eliminate Hamas as a threat.

Mr. Netanyahu vowed that Israel would “finish the job by itself” if Hamas rejected the plan. “This can be done the easy way or it can be done the hard way,” he said. “But it will be done.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/09/29/...srael-gaza

Oh I take it back! They do mention fucking!

Quote:A temporary board set to be created under the proposal would be in charge of Gaza and given the task of redeveloping the territory. Trump, who would be installed as the board’s chairman, has long been focused on the potential value of the waterfront property there.

(05-05-2025, 01:22 PM)Tecate Wrote: In having spoken to some Muslims from the countries elsewhere in the Middle East, they have said that the Palestinian people are like wild dogs that have grouped together into a pack that cannot be controlled or trusted.

They lay to waste everything that they touch. They don’t build, they only take. For this reason they are not welcome in any other Muslim nation. No one wants to be stuck with unwanted, unhelpful guests who don’t do anything to better themselves and others.

I don’t know the solution any more than anyone else does, but obviously it cannot continue as it is.

Just my 2 pesos…

Tecate

What countries were these people from that you spoke to? The muslim based ones that don't accept palestinian Muslims?

(09-29-2025, 04:00 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: What countries were these people from that you spoke to?

Hey, did you know the word "Gauze" comes from Gaza?

So I suppose Gaza can put some "Gauze" on it.

And as Bill Clinton said, America better put some "ICE" on it.¹

Haha!


¹ https://www.amazon.com/Youd-Better-Put-S...1981229760

(09-29-2025, 04:02 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Hey, did you know the word "Gauze" comes from Gaza?

So I suppose Gaza can put some "Gauze" on it.

And as Bill Clinton said, America better put some "ICE" on it.

Haha!

Its a 16th century word

(09-29-2025, 03:38 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Here is Trump Peace-to-Prosperity plan, released today! I don't think it mentions copulation, but perhaps there's will be an addendum!

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-...y-0120.pdf (181 page PDF)


Haha that is a no!

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/09/29/...srael-gaza

Oh I take it back! They do mention fucking!

He's going to have to get Tony Blaire's permission first to be Chairman..... Blair wants to be the top dog regarding the 'running' of Gaza.
I think Trump even eluded to him during his speech.
Rainbows
Jane

(09-29-2025, 03:38 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Here is Trump Peace-to-Prosperity plan, released today! I don't think it mentions copulation, but perhaps there's will be an addendum!

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-...y-0120.pdf (181 page PDF)


Haha that is a no!

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/09/29/...srael-gaza

Oh I take it back! They do mention fucking!

White House link doesn't work for me...

Trump's 20-step plan looks ambitious BUT even if it partially works, isn't it better than the status quo


 

Quote: 
President Donald J. Trump’s Comprehensive Plan to End the Gaza Conflict:

1. Gaza will be a deradicalized terror-free zone that does not pose a threat to its neighbors.

2. Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.

3. If both sides agree to this proposal, the war will immediately end. Israeli forces will withdraw to the agreed upon line to prepare for a hostage release. During this time, all military operations, including aerial and artillery bombardment, will be suspended, and battle lines will remain frozen until conditions are met for the complete staged withdrawal.

4. Within 72 hours of Israel publicly accepting this agreement, all hostages, alive and deceased, will be returned.

5. Once all hostages are released, Israel will release 250 life sentence prisoners plus 1700 Gazans who were detained after October 7th 2023, including all women and children detained in that context. For every Israeli hostage whose remains are released, Israel will release the remains of 15 deceased Gazans.

6. Once all hostages are returned, Hamas members who commit to peaceful co-existence and to decommission their weapons will be given amnesty. Members of Hamas who wish to leave Gaza will be provided safe passage to receiving countries.

7. Upon acceptance of this agreement, full aid will be immediately sent into the Gaza Strip. At a minimum, aid quantities will be consistent with what was included in the January 19, 2025, agreement regarding humanitarian aid, including rehabilitation of infrastructure (water, electricity, sewage), rehabilitation of hospitals and bakeries, and entry of necessary equipment to remove rubble and open roads.

8. Entry of distribution and aid in the Gaza Strip will proceed without interference from the two parties through the United Nations and its agencies, and the Red Crescent, in addition to other international institutions not associated in any manner with either party. Opening the Rafah crossing in both directions will be subject to the same mechanism implemented under the January 19, 2025 agreement.

9. Gaza will be governed under the temporary transitional governance of a technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee, responsible for delivering the day-to-day running of public services and municipalities for the people in Gaza. This committee will be made up of qualified Palestinians and international experts, with oversight and supervision by a new international transitional body, the “Board of Peace,” which will be headed and chaired by President Donald J. Trump, with other members and heads of State to be announced, including Former Prime Minister Tony Blair. This body will set the framework and handle the funding for the redevelopment of Gaza until such time as the Palestinian Authority has completed its reform program, as outlined in various proposals, including President Trump’s peace plan in 2020 and the Saudi-French proposal, and can securely and effectively take back control of Gaza. This body will call on best international standards to create modern and efficient governance that serves the people of Gaza and is conducive to attracting investment.

10. A Trump economic development plan to rebuild and energize Gaza will be created by convening a panel of experts who have helped birth some of the thriving modern miracle cities in the Middle East. Many thoughtful investment proposals and exciting development ideas have been crafted by well-meaning international groups, and will be considered to synthesize the security and governance frameworks to attract and facilitate these investments that will create jobs, opportunity, and hope for future Gaza.

11. A special economic zone will be established with preferred tariff and access rates to be negotiated with participating countries.

12. No one will be forced to leave Gaza, and those who wish to leave will be free to do so and free to return. We will encourage people to stay and offer them the opportunity to build a better Gaza.

13. Hamas and other factions agree to not have any role in the governance of Gaza, directly, indirectly, or in any form. All military, terror, and offensive infrastructure, including tunnels and weapon production facilities, will be destroyed and not rebuilt. There will be a process of demilitarization of Gaza under the supervision of independent monitors, which will include placing weapons permanently beyond use through an agreed process of decommissioning, and supported by an internationally funded buy back and reintegration program all verified by the independent monitors. New Gaza will be fully committed to building a prosperous economy and to peaceful coexistence with their neighbors.

14. A guarantee will be provided by regional partners to ensure that Hamas, and the factions, comply with their obligations and that New Gaza poses no threat to its neighbors or its people.

15. The United States will work with Arab and international partners to develop a temporary International Stabilization Force (ISF) to immediately deploy in Gaza. The ISF will train and provide support to vetted Palestinian police forces in Gaza, and will consult with Jordan and Egypt who have extensive experience in this field. This force will be the long-term internal security solution. The ISF will work with Israel and Egypt to help secure border areas, along with newly trained Palestinian police forces. It is critical to prevent munitions from entering Gaza and to facilitate the rapid and secure flow of goods to rebuild and revitalize Gaza. A deconfliction mechanism will be agreed upon by the parties.

16. Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. As the ISF establishes control and stability, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) will withdraw based on standards, milestones, and timeframes linked to demilitarization that will be agreed upon between the IDF, ISF, the guarantors, and the Unites States, with the objective of a secure Gaza that no longer poses a threat to Israel, Egypt, or its citizens. Practically, the IDF will progressively hand over the Gaza territory it occupies to the ISF according to an agreement they will make with the transitional authority until they are withdrawn completely from Gaza, save for a security perimeter presence that will remain until Gaza is properly secure from any resurgent terror threat.

17. In the event Hamas delays or rejects this proposal, the above, including the scaled-up aid operation, will proceed in the terror-free areas handed over from the IDF to the ISF.

18. An interfaith dialogue process will be established based on the values of tolerance and peaceful co-existence to try and change mindsets and narratives of Palestinians and Israelis by emphasizing the benefits that can be derived from peace.

19. While Gaza re-development advances and when the PA reform program is faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood, which we recognize as the aspiration of the Palestinian people.

20. The United States will establish a dialogue between Israel and the Palestinians to agree on a political horizon for peaceful and prosperous co-existence.

I wonder if this new plan has anything to with IDF firing on humanitarian aid flotillas trying to help the people there? The flotillas now have the escort of a Spanish Warship and an Italian Warship, with Greece aiding the flotilla in their safe travels?

(09-29-2025, 03:38 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote:  

Oh I take it back! They do mention fucking!

Good.

The Gazonians deserve being bombed.

(09-29-2025, 05:42 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I wonder if this new plan has anything to with IDF firing on humanitarian aid flotillas trying to help the people there? The flotillas now have the escort of a Spanish Warship and an Italian Warship, with Greece aiding the flotilla in their safe travels?

Nobody cares.
Know why?
Nothing of value was sunk, damaged, or killed.
Greta could have made the whole thing up.
She’s responsible for plenty of the gaslighting going on so her track record for telling truths is not there.
It’s safe to say that if you attempt to break any legitimate wartime naval blockade things may get spicy for you.