From Sky News:

Quote:Benjamin Netanyahu says Israel's plan to capture all of the Gaza Strip will be intensive, with troops to remain there for an unspecified length of time.

The Israeli prime minister says IDF forces will not launch raids and then abandon territory, "but the opposite".

The plan includes distributing aid, though supplies will not be let in yet.

The Israeli official said the newly approved offensive plan would move Gaza's civilian population southward and keep humanitarian aid from falling into Hamas's hands.

...Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has so far failed to achieve his goal of destroying Hamas or returning all the hostages, despite more than a year of brutal war in Gaza.

...Officials say the plan will help with these war aims but it would also push hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to southern Gaza, exacerbating an already dire humanitarian crisis.

They said the plan included the "capturing of the strip and the holding of territories"...

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-approv...y-13362138

What do you think? Will this decrease the violence and lead to a more stable Middle East? Was land capture the goal all along? Or is it more complex than that?



Found this image claiming that's what the two blue stripes on the Israeli flag represent:



And I am wondering what Egypt's reaction to this will be?

Fine by me.
Israel never should have given it up for peace 20 years ago.
The people of Gaza aren't capable of living in peace. 
Not with Israel and not with other Muslim countries like Egypt and Jordan.

(05-05-2025, 10:13 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: And I am wondering what Egypt's reaction to this will be?

Outwardly Egypt and Jordan have to complain about it so they can keep their "M CARD".   Privately, they won't care as long as it  means that they won't have to deal with the so called 'palestinians' migrating into their countries.   Those people are nothing but trouble, and Egypt and Jordan know it firsthand since those 'palestinians' tried to overthrow their governments (and failed).

In having spoken to some Muslims from the countries elsewhere in the Middle East, they have said that the Palestinian people are like wild dogs that have grouped together into a pack that cannot be controlled or trusted.

They lay to waste everything that they touch. They don’t build, they only take. For this reason they are not welcome in any other Muslim nation. No one wants to be stuck with unwanted, unhelpful guests who don’t do anything to better themselves and others.

I don’t know the solution any more than anyone else does, but obviously it cannot continue as it is.

Just my 2 pesos…

Tecate

(05-05-2025, 10:13 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: From Sky News:

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-approv...y-13362138

What do you think? Will this decrease the violence and lead to a more stable Middle East? Was land capture the goal all along? Or is it more complex than that?

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Found this image claiming that's what the two blue stripes on the Israeli flag represent:

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And I am wondering what Egypt's reaction to this will be?

It's about time Israel had a final solution for Gaza. Sorry, poor taste. Or apt taste depending on view. 

They have until the end of Trump's visit before Operation Gideon Chariots commences. The Midianites are so screwed.

I'm just playing it forward to the protests over The USA supporting and aiding in an "ethnic cleansing and genocide."  Israel will provide the troops, USA will provide the defense contractors with a newly inflated budget.

Is it going to be a crime to protest in support of Gaza?  Better yet, for whom will it be a crime to protest?

It's gonna be an Issue. There's too much Deerborn is America to let these "war crimes" happen without protest.

Will he deploy the national guard without hesitation on this one?

Will Arab immigrants be too fearful of deportation to criticize him? And maybe that was the plan with the Columbia students/Ivy League crackdowns all along.

If Israel thinks this is the only way to preserve their safety, and if the USA isn't going to call for its usual temperance, then it's what was really wanted all along. 

If it make people feel better about it all, I don't think others (Like Egypt) really likes Iran's terror exclave being next to them, and their only concern will be "don't move them here."

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-852755

I see Yemen as the relocation destination? 

Playing it forward for Israel. They must be fine with having a second West Bank. It will be a constant fight, but they'll strangle out Iran's exclave of jihad. It will be never-ending and always subject to insurgency.

I think a lot of the rabble over the inhumanity of this is why Trump is going after academia to begin with. The master of bias views is trying to call out another bias view, that may actually be real. 

The war in this will be against the progressive western Muslim narrative of the apartheid state that gets allowed without any stone thrown at themselves for why that is.

From the river to the sea
will now be all Israeli


After UNRWA fraud was exposed, it became inevitable that if there is no money to be embezzled, the rest of the Arab world doesn't want to be involved

(05-05-2025, 01:28 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: It's about time Israel had a final solution for Gaza. Sorry, poor taste. Or apt taste depending on view. 

Let's call it a "final resolution", perhaps.

NYT is now covering this: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/05/world...-gaza.html (no paywall)

The comments there are interesting in their tenor. Kind of like "yeah we knew this was going to happen, yeah this is horrible, yeah well hamas whatcha gonna do amirite, hope it goes smoothly". A little different from the usual polite polarization of the typical NYT comment section.

And of course one comment made the obvious point:

Quote:Just to clarify, Israel's blockade of humanitarian aid is explicitly illegal and a clear violation of international law and the laws of war. All parties in a conflict must do everything in their power to facilitate the delivery of humanitarian aid. They absolutely cannot use humanitarian aid as a weapon to coerce a population.

This is not some legally dubious grey area, it is explicitly and clearly written in international law.

Which I guess had to be said and sure, that's true, but "war is war" seems to be the realpolitik and no one is arguing that. That kinda hand-waving does cede some nations' "moral high ground" though. And lol what's the UN going to say/do hahaha?

(05-05-2025, 01:56 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Let's call it a "final resolution", perhaps.

NYT is now covering this: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/05/world...-gaza.html (no paywall)

The comments there are interesting in their tenor. Kind of like "yeah we knew this was going to happen, yeah this is horrible, yeah well hamas whatcha gonna do amirite, hope it goes smoothly". A little different from the usual polite polarization of the typical NYT comment section.

And of course one comment made the obvious point:

Which I guess had to be said and sure, that's true, but "war is war" seems to be the realpolitik and no one is arguing that. That kinda hand-waving does cede some nation's "moral high ground" though. And lol what's the UN going to say/do hahaha?

The de facto military of Gaza, Hamas, embezzles and diverts, and hoards a high percentage of aid solely intended for innocent Gazans.

A. Yes

B. No

C.Maybe

(05-05-2025, 02:01 PM)putnam6 Wrote: The de facto military of Gaza, Hamas, embezzles and diverts, and hoards a high percentage of aid solely intended for innocent Gazans.

The only innocent Gazans are those under 8 years old. 
After that .. they are all of one mind and one purpose and are guilty.

(05-05-2025, 02:01 PM)putnam6 Wrote: The de facto military of Gaza, Hamas, embezzles and diverts, and hoards a high percentage of aid solely intended for innocent Gazans.

A. Yes

B. No

C.Maybe

Ha prolly but I'll take option "D. Fuck If I Know It All Seems Like Propaganda".