I have little doubt that either side believes the other to be less than human and without rights. I don't have any evidence, but I feel fairly certain this is the case.

They will claim that physiological differences are proof of either side's less than human status, but even if they admit we're all physically human, the religious beliefs come into play. A non-believing human is not considered a human spiritually, and therefore are amoral animals based on the extreme religious dogma of both sides. Worse than animals even, both are considered devils and demons by the other and must be destroyed.

It's not just countries/people sanctioning Israeli ministers, it's boycotting businesses, and quite a few of them. Follow the money.

"PepsiCo and The Coca‑Cola Company witnessed the largest decline, with 57.5% and 35.6%, respectively. Procter & Gamble, Starbucks, and McDonald's also experienced notable declines in profits. 
Below is an overview of the performance of five companies targeted by the boycott in the last three months of 2023. Combined, the firms reported $9.9 billion in net profits in the last three months of last year compared to $14.3 billion in the prior quarter of the same year."

How Pro-Gaza Boycott Campaigns Have Impacted 5 Companies

Churches are also at work protesting behind the scenes.

"Church of England says Israel's actions in Gaza are 'war of aggression,' no longer 'defensive'"

"Faith-Based Groups’ Protests for Cease-Fire in Gaza Gain Momentum"

"The General Assembly also advanced a measure that begins the process of ending shareholder partnerships with General Electric and Palantir Technologies due to their contributions to human rights abuses in Palestine.

PC(USA) continues protest against Israel with more divestment – Baptist News Global"

I will look deeper into this Palantir Technologies because it's the second time I've seen this company named.

etc. etc. etc.

ETA:

"Alexander Caedmon Karp (born October 2, 1967)[sup][1][/sup] is an American businessman and the co-founder and CEO of software firm Palantir Technologies. He began his career investing in startups and stocks, and co-founded Palantir with Peter Thiel in 2003.[sup][2][/sup] In 2025, Time magazine named him in the Time 100 list of the world's most influential people."

Peter Thiel being the largest stock holder says it all. Following the money.

(06-26-2025, 06:36 AM)andy06shake Wrote: False assurances you fail to be able to address or list. 

You just now got to something specific.


from Wikipedia

Quote:Spike (missile)
 The missile uses a tandem warhead consisting of two shaped charges: a precursor warhead to detonate any explosive reactive armor, and a primary warhead to penetrate the underlying armor. Currently, it is replacing aging semi-automatic command to line of sight second generation anti-tank missiles like the MILANand M47 Dragon in the armies of the user nations. Spike missile is also equipped with heat chasing technology.

So?  Anti tank weapon?  Any evidence it’s fired from aircraft?  I guess it can be fired from a helicopter.  Any helicopter missions that day with backing radar data.  Can you link to the supposed craters?  

The article is confusing on how it would be an anti-personnel round.  But I think it would have a fragmenting warhead that would act more like shotgun buckshot and not leave a crater.

(06-26-2025, 05:48 AM)quintessentone Wrote: The world is now taking a stronger stance against Israel's war crimes against the Palestinian people and their true intent which is to kill or push out every last Palestinian so they can take their land and resources, as has always been the goal. And seemingly it has become the U.S.'s goal too. This has to end.

Which has what to do if the world took a stance on the war crimes of Hamas and Hamas using human shield in the first place, we wouldn’t be here today.

All Hamas had to do was not fire rockets into Isreal.  Spend more on the welfare of the citizens of Gaza, and less on terror rockets.

(06-26-2025, 07:39 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Which has what to do if the world took a stance on the war crimes of Hamas and Hamas using human shield in the first place, we wouldn’t be here today.

All Hamas had to do was not fire rockets into Isreal.  Spend more on the welfare of the citizens of Gaza, and less on terror rockets.

Hamas were acting to free the Palestinian people from Israeli occupation and oppression which has been a long history between the two. Were they acting out of desperation?

(06-26-2025, 07:34 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: You just now got to something specific.


from Wikipedia


So?  Anti tank weapon?  Any evidence it’s fired from aircraft?  I guess it can be fired from a helicopter.  Any helicopter missions that day with backing radar data.  Can you link to the supposed craters?  

The article is confusing on how it would be an anti-personnel round.  But I think it would have a fragmenting warhead that would act more like shotgun buckshot and not leave a crater.

If you could simply show some tangible evidence to back up the claims you made, that might be nice.

Where is that now?

Nowhere to be seen, that's where.

Do i need to explain how reciprocation or the burden of proof functions?

And which article is confusing you?

You have been presented with 4 thus far.

If you wish me to answer questions and provide evidence.

You need to do the same. 

I've endeavored to do so, and have provided you with actual answers and conclusions.

If you cannot do the same, whats the point..........................................

(06-26-2025, 07:42 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Hamas were acting to free the Palestinian people

By using them as human shields?  And by rockets with no military objective but to kill civilians?

(06-26-2025, 07:42 AM)andy06shake Wrote: If you could simply show some tangible evidence to back up the claims you made, that might be nice.

Spike missiles are primarily an antitank missile fired from shoulder, wheeled / tracked vehicles, that has also has a helicopter variant.

Where antipersonnel rounds are usually large area effect fragmentation weapons in the realm of buckshot.  

Those are undeniable facts.

Now, were there any Israeli assets in the rage of the spike missile variant supposedly used.  Backed by what radar data. Consistent with what actual damage.

(06-26-2025, 05:04 AM)andy06shake Wrote: How can a ""misfired Hamas rocket"" be a good case highlighting how Hamas lies and uses civilians as cannon fodder?

Would that not be, by very definition, an accident?

It's an example of how they lie because they claimed Israel air bombed a hospital and killed 500 civilians, but Hamas knew it was one of their own rockets and it landed in the parking lot killing 50.  But they lied in a PR stunt and got useful idiots around the world to believe them.

(06-26-2025, 05:39 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Still doesn’t change the fact Hamas treats its civilians as cannon fodder and human shields ..

They like big civilian death numbers.
They inflate the numbers.
They use it for PR purposes.