(06-25-2025, 03:21 PM)IgnorantGod Wrote: Well, since it was in December, it was indeed still the former administration. It was still fairly recent, and might have some weight in regards to Trump action, though that's all speculation on my part.

JFK Jr is hoping to get more Americans into wearable's. That could plausibly be a stepping stone to implants.

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(06-24-2025, 09:06 PM)Observer Wrote: I thought this was an interesting development.
 

• UK sanctions Israeli government ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich today, in response to their repeated incitements of violence against Palestinian communities
  
• alongside partners Australia, Canada, New Zealand and Norway, the UK calls for immediate action against extremist settlers
  
• measures announced today demonstrate UK commitment to challenging those inciting hatred and violence. 
  

UK and partners unite to sanction ministers inciting West Bank violence - GOV.UK



Secretary of State, Marco Rubio's response:
United States Condemns UK, Canada, Norway, New Zealand, Australia Sanctions on Israeli Government Officials - United States Department of State

I've done a bit of research lately regarding the issue's between the Jewish settler's in Israel/Palestine, Palestinians and other Arab neighbors.

Why does the U.S., in an OFFICIAL capacity ignore the genocide of non-combatants(women? children? elderly?) which make up roughly 70% of the population in Gaza that are continually being displaced, murdered, and starved then turn around and condemn humanitarian related sanctions against Israel government officials that promote the continuing of these actions/tactics?

It make's us look horrible through the lens of the rest of the free world.

It appears this happened on June 10, 2025 or continues to happen with more countries signing on:

Canada joins allies in sanctioning 2 Israeli ministers for Gaza comments - National | Globalnews.ca

List of sanctions involving Israel - Wikipedia

(06-25-2025, 08:08 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Collective punishment of civilians is a war crime under international law.

The original war crime is Hamas using human shields.

Al-Ahli Arab Hospital incident on Oct 17 2023 from a misfired Hamas rocket is a good case highlighting how Hamas lies and used civilians as canon fodder 

Then the Salah-al-Din street civilian convoy attack around Oct 15th 2023 was swept from the news when actual evidence started to point to Palestinian extremists targeting fleeing civilians.

(06-26-2025, 04:56 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: The original war crime is Hamas using human shields.

Al-Ahli Arab Hospital incident on Oct 17 2023 from a misfired Hamas rocket is a good case highlighting how Hamas lies and used civilians as canon fodder 

Then the Salah-al-Din street civilian convoy attack around Oct 15th 2023 was swept from the news when actual evidence started to point to Palestinian extremists targeting fleeing civilians.

How can a ""misfired Hamas rocket"" be a good case highlighting how Hamas lies and uses civilians as cannon fodder?

Would that not be, by very definition, an accident?

I mean a horrendous accident at that, but it was indeed established to be a Hamas rocket responsible, and Israel was cleared of that responsibility or blame within about a day. 

The Salah al‑Din Road strike on October 13, 2023 targeted a convoy evacuating civilians from northern Gaza via a route ""designated by Israel as safe"".

And your problem being ""independent investigations"" including those by Bellingcat and other media outlets, found  ""no credible evidence"" that Palestinian extremists were responsible.

They did, however, establish that the strike aligns with Israeli military activity in the area.

And claims that it was extremists targeting civilians are unverified, and not supported by open-source intelligence or eyewitness reports.

Also, the tragic event was ""documented"" not "swept from the news," like you just claimed.

Blaming Palestinian groups for this particular attack lacks substantiation.

And distracts from holding the actual responsible party accountable under international humanitarian law. 

None of which changes the fact that the collective punishment of groups of civilians is a war crime under international law.

This needs to end while there are still some innocents and civilians left standing.

(06-26-2025, 05:04 AM)andy06shake Wrote: They did, however, establish that the strike aligns with Israeli military activity in the area.

Who’s they?  The same people that tired to blame the Hamas misfired rocket explosion at Al-Ahli Arab Hospital on Isreal until they couldn’t control the narrative.


So?  For Salah-al-Din, all you have is propaganda.  Again, as physical evidence stated to point at Palestinian militants such as shrapnel, the incident was swept from the news.

Maybe Hamas should have invested in bomb shelters and air defense for their civilians like Israel does for its civilians. But Hamas would rather build terror tunnels and terror rockets, target civilians, and use their own civilians as fodder and shields.

(06-26-2025, 05:20 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Who’s they?  The same people that tired to blame the Hamas misfired rocket explosion at Al-Ahli Arab Hospital on Isreal until they couldn’t control the narrative.


So?  For Salah-al-Din, all you have is propaganda.  Again, as physical evidence stated to point at Palestinian militants such as shrapnel, the incident was swept from the news.

Maybe Hamas should have invested in bomb shelters and air defense for their civilians like Israel does for its civilians. But Hamas would rather build terror tunnels and terror rockets, target civilians, and use their own civilians as fodder and shields.

Open-source investigations is who "they" are in this instance.

Including "Bellingcat" and multiple other "independent media" outlets, that found no credible evidence linking Palestinian militants to the Salah al-Din road strike, that's a fact.

Claiming it was "swept from the news" is completely false, and again, major outlets covered the story extensively.

And the idea that Hamas should have built shelters misses the point.

Under international law, civilian protection is the responsibility of all parties, especially the attacking one.

Shifting the blame to Hamas without evidence simply evades accountability.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67114281
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/o...afe-routes
https://thepublicsource.org/israeli-resp...din-street
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2023/10/...gaza-city/

(06-26-2025, 05:31 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Including "Bellingcat" and multiple other "independent media" outlets, that found no credible evidence linking Palestinian militants to the Salah al-Din road strike, that's a fact.

Based on what actual physical evidence such as shrapnel, and weapon type to correlating to physical damage?

Still doesn’t change the fact Hamas treats its civilians as cannon fodder and human shields while they hid in tunnels that civilians couldn’t shelter in.  Where Hamas spent more money on trying to kill civilian Jews than protecting its own civilians.

"Irish premier calls for EU sanctions on Israeli settlers in occupied West Bank, far-right ministers
 Micheal Martin criticizes Israel for dismissing independent reports on humanitarian situation in Gaza
Irish Prime Minister Micheal Martin has called on the EU to impose sanctions on violent Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank, as well as far-right ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich, over their role in escalating tensions.

Speaking ahead of the European Council summit in Brussels on Thursday, Martin stressed that the EU must take stronger action, including reviewing its Association Agreement with Israel, to ensure compliance with international human rights standards."

Irish premier calls for EU sanctions on Israeli settlers in occupied West Bank, far-right ministers | News

UN special rapporteur calls for immediate sanctions against Israel over Gaza genocide

(06-26-2025, 05:39 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Irish Prime Minister Micheal Martin has called on the EU to impose sanctions

Maybe if the word would have taken a stronger stance on Hamas using human shields instead of turning a blind eye there wouldn’t be this mess now.

(06-26-2025, 05:42 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Maybe if the word would have taken a stronger stance on Hamas using human shields instead of turning a blind eye there wouldn’t be this mess now.

The world is now taking a stronger stance against Israel's war crimes against the Palestinian people and their true intent which is to kill or push out every last Palestinian so they can take their land and resources, as has always been the goal. And seemingly it has become the U.S.'s goal too. This has to end.