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Why does Israel hate Hamas?
#11
Seriously?   Why does Israel "hate" Hamas?  Why do you think?  Anyone who threatens my family is a dead dog.  Y'understand?   

Israel was once set upon from all sides for six days.   You know what?  They won.  

I am not in Israel, and I am not Jewish, but I -- and any sentient person -- "hate" anyone who is trying to kill  their  family.   "Hate" doesn't even begin to cover it.   Silly question, imo.
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#12
(05-31-2025, 06:43 PM)argentus Wrote: Seriously?   Why does Israel "hate" Hamas?  Why do you think?

The situation looks similar to what the British done to the Australian Aboriginals a couple hundred years ago. Any that fought back got killed, those that where compliant or got out of the way got to live. In Tasmania there was a big culling. Since then, things like the stolen generation was used to try and bridge the cultural gap.

Now in Gaza, the place was setup to contain all the displaced from Israel's expansion that did not have the means or will to flee elsewhere. Now that Israel is in a position to take over all of Palestine, what does it do with those remaining? Lock them in, move them around, cut off water, food and other supplies while demolishing the infrastructure with many casualties along the way. Designate everyone over 8 years old as a terrorist supporter.

Maybe asking why the hate is a silly question. The only dumb questions are the ones never asked. I know there is nothing I can do about what goes on in other parts of the world. How does one come to terms with the scale of the conflict going on? I get how killing is a job at times, try and be quick about it when required. To use starvation against a population that was around 2 million is a malicious approach that induces disdain.
#13
Quote:Why does Israel hate Hamas

The bad tracks that are laid when your UN-approved declaration of independence is met by every neighboring country declaring war on you anyway..

And then when you win they spitefully pick on you for 20 years. The last straw being closing the canal to your use. At which point you attack their airfield, and once again all neighboring countries declare war.

But the world is like high school, so....

Israel, in the first twenty years, was like a bullied nerd getting screwed with in the hallways. "Quit hitting yourself, nerd!"  "No, fags can't use the vending machine!" 

And the popular kids kept picking on him until he had enough, learned krav maga, and started beating the shit out of everyone that fucked with him.

And then turned it on all the bullies. They once wouldn't let him use the soda machine so he responded by kicking their ass and taking over the the entire breezeway with all the vending machines, and even took control of part of the gym, library, and courtyard. But he eventually gave back the gym, after the minister's son that liked peanuts negotiated a truce. 

And while some of the bullies stopped picking on him,  others got even angrier and adopted militant mindsets. And one of them, wrote a vengeful manifesto/charter in which they expressed the goal is to kill the nerd and remove them from the hallways and breezeway, and any remaining claims to any part of the school campus. 

They tried for years, and every time they pushed the nerd, he'd takes another small part of the campus.  That's how he kept peace for himself. 

So the vengeful deposed bully teams up the schools most belligerent douchebag bully, and they then enlist the hateful white trash tweeker kid to kidnap, rape, and kill the nerd's sister...

Punishment for not accepting getting picked on like in those first years.
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#14
(05-31-2025, 10:34 AM)Kwaka Wrote: Yeah. When looking into who really leads Hamas, goes back to Israel. The way of Palestine will be the way of the world.


Israel leads Hamas so Isreal can launch rockets into Isreal?  In the thousands?  Over years if not decades?  To what end.  If Isreal wanted to have a real holocaust of Gaze, Israel would have cleaned house long ago.  Israel acted more like a person trying to keep angry bees out of their yard by just swatting them. Then finally got tired and eradicated the hive.
#15
Why does Isreal hate Hamas? The real question is why did Isreal back Hamas? 
Could it be that they knew Hamas would give them the excuse to do what they are doing now? To grab more territory and claim the untapped oil fields off the coast? Or is it more about the Zionist plan for the greater Israel? 

why did they call the Oct 7th attack their 9/11? Was it because they had intel and decided to let it happen, to give them the excuse to pursue a greater agenda? How did Hamas break the state of the art defence, that even a cat couldn’t get through unnoticed? 

Why do people hate each other so blindly? Why do people stoop to anything to gain power and riches? Why is the whole world run by lunatics?

The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind, the answer is blowing in the wind.
#16
Don’t be under the false impression that a nations leadership gives a flying fig about its people. History has proved otherwise, time and time again. People are just pawns, cannon fodder, plebs, scum, you get the idea.
#17
(06-01-2025, 03:08 AM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Israel, in the first twenty years, was like a bullied nerd getting screwed with in the hallways.

While some of the plans go back hundreds of years, it was in the ashes of WW2 that got Israel started. The Jews did get bullied, along with many others. It is a strategic place at the cross roads between Eurasia and Africa. Looking like Israel does want an important part in land and sea travel and trade in the region with the Greater Israel plan.
#18
(05-31-2025, 10:48 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Seems like thousands of years of Talmudic quibbling and technically not violating the Torah

The Torah is a part of Christianity with the Old Testament. Things do take a different path between the Bible and the Talmud. By ignoring Jesus, missing things like compassion, forgiveness and looking after your neighbors do help keep the hate rolling. His stunt in messing up the money changers did cause tension.
#19
(06-01-2025, 05:22 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Israel leads Hamas so Isreal can launch rockets into Isreal?  In the thousands?  Over years if not decades?  To what end.

How effective has that campaign really been? I have seen photos of some minor damage at times, no craters in the road, flattened houses or dead bodies. What is the really objective of such action? Hamas has no chance to conduct any kind of invasion with such a tactic. What this has achieved is to build public support for Israel to continue its offensive.

Israel did count the votes that put Hamas in power in Gaza's last election about 20 years ago. Hamas became the prison guards of the Gaza complex as Israel continued to maintain its boarders and got to decide what could go in and out.
#20
(05-31-2025, 11:44 PM)Kwaka Wrote:  To use starvation against a population that was around 2 million is a malicious approach that induces disdain.


Gaza already 'disdained' Israel and they aren't starving.  That 'oh my God this is dire and they all are starving' has been the propaganda battle cry for a year and a half, and no one has starved.   Israel is defending itself, and since all of Gaza is complicit in actions against Israel, then Israel is in no way required to feed and shelter the Gazans, who have declared themselves enemies of Israel.

Those people in Gaza are not innocent.   The so called civilians took part in the Oct 7 attacks and house the hostages in their homes, where they rape and beat them - both the men and the women.  The people of Gaza danced for joy on Oct 7 and they swarmed the hostages by the tens of thousands as they were paraded in the streets of Gaza ... swarmed the hostages and screamed for their rapes and deaths.   For decades the people of Gaza have raised their children on hate, that Jews are just 'apes and pigs' and should be slaughtered, and that Israel is not a country and is really theirs.   They support and participate in constant attacks on Israel.

Any difficulties they have getting food and/or shelter now is a CONSEQUENCE of their own actions and bad behavior.   The people of Gaza caused their own situation.