Why does Israel hate Hamas?

[Kwaka]

Firstly we have the growth of Israel after WW2 into Palestine. It has been on the offensive since day one. From my Grandads tours of the region at this time, everyone has gone troppo, heat affected living in the tropic region of the globe.

We could go on for a while for where things are at today, to get to the point for why cultural genocide is the only solution, the topic of usury or interest is high on the radar. This is a very sensitive topic in how the global economy works these days. Jesus Christ got his death sentence from upsetting the money changers at the time

With a historical perspective looking into how the issue of usury has impacted cultural development of a society, the culture does not grow as fast, but is much more stable in its development. With the system we have with usury, it works while things are growing. As the wave of depopulation and eating bugs hits, things stop adding up. For a more recent example, Zimbabwe and Germany made a blip.

On the other side of the hate, Israel knows it is being a bully and does deserve some retribution. Thinking kill em all will solve the problem does not work that way. This is how people like George Soros are born. Got the instincts to survive and schooled in war.

I know we can banter on with the he said/she said side of things on Gaza and the West Bank. First time I heard of a Zionist was when looking into 9/11. Comes across as a Jew / Nazi, all in for Israel. As for what a Jew is, started with Moses telling Pharaoh to get stuffed thousands of years ago. Since then it has spread through Eurasia and captured the USA congress. Cannot blame Trump for playing ball to get the top job. 

To get tarred and feathered as anti Semitic while watching the back of one of the earlier Semitic lines just fits in with the rules of war going on. How do you understand the hate going on in this conflict?

[UltraBudgie]

You can call it racial, ethnic, or religious supremacy or you can call it fried chicken.

>> What is Noam Chomsky going on about with "fried chicken"?

The reference to "fried chicken" in relation to Noam Chomsky comes from a statement he made regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. In a discussion about the nature of the proposed Palestinian state, Chomsky pointed out that Israeli officials have suggested that Palestinians could call whatever limited territory is left to them a "state" if they wanted, or they could call it "fried chicken." This remark was intended to highlight the absurdity of the situation, where the term "state" is used without any real substance or sovereignty behind it.

Chomsky's comment reflects his critique of the Israeli government's approach to the peace process and the ongoing occupation of Palestinian territories. He argues that the term "Palestinian state" is often used in a way that does not correspond to any meaningful political reality, similar to how one might whimsically refer to something as "fried chicken" without it having any actual relevance to the situation at hand. This metaphor underscores the frustration many feel regarding the lack of genuine progress toward a viable and independent Palestinian state.

I heard someone say there will only be peace in that region when both Muslims and Jews accept Christ, as that is the only path to peace. So let them slaughter each other until they wise up. Not my personal philosophy. Probably explains the support for Zionism and the 79,000 tons of bombs America has supplied to the conflict in the last three years, though. As long as it's not their children being killed and the blood isn't on their soil, they can keep pretending they're the good guys. Cowards.

[fiveandtwo]

The original land promised to Abraham by God himself would today include all of Israel and parts of Lebanon, Syria and Jordan.  All borders established since are manmade.

[Kwaka]

What is Noam Chomsky going on about with "fried chicken"?

Take it as Noam is on the Zionist side with the Palestine goose as cooked.

[WallFlowerActive]

Take it as Noam is on the Zionist side with the Palestine goose as cooked.

Or understands those that lead Hamas think they are going to lead a jihad that’s going to clean house.  And that even includes sympathetic infidel like you.

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When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons. Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.
Golda Meir, “

[MichSwampbuck]

The original land promised to Abraham by God himself would today include all of Israel and parts of Lebanon, Syria and Jordan.  All borders established since are manmade.

God's promise as manifest destiny for Israel.

Say, wasn't there something with God getting angry with the chosen folks? Some kind of generational curse (or the like) for pissing off God?

If this is the end times, then God should be getting pissed at everyone who would challenge Israel's manifest destiny. All this leading to Christ's return to take over Jerusalem and rule the world in peace for one thousand years.

[Kwaka]

The original land promised to Abraham by God himself would today include all of Israel and parts of Lebanon, Syria and Jordan.  All borders established since are manmade.

Boarders are dynamic things, lot of changes over the years. Turkey agreed to go half's on Syria to stay out of the rest of it. The greater Israel project on the Egypt front looks like a win with how the politics is playing out. With the latest Youtube regional maps, Yemen has fallen to Saudi Arabia while Israel takes what it wants of Jordan.

As for how this matches up to the reality?

[Kwaka]

Or understands those that lead Hamas think they are going to lead a jihad that’s going to clean house.  And that even includes sympathetic infidel like you.

Yeah. When looking into who really leads Hamas, goes back to Israel. The way of Palestine will be the way of the world.

The sad thing in all this, what kind of culture is Israel really fighting for? When dehumanizing a culture with collective punishment, you are going to be stuffed as well one day when the computer says no.

[UltraBudgie]

Say, wasn't there something with God getting angry with the chosen folks?

The sad thing in all this, what kind of culture is Israel really fighting for?

Seems like thousands of years of Talmudic quibbling and technically not violating the Torah, along with thousand of years of God technically not smiting them for it.

Gotta love 'em.


Edit to add

And to the point of the thread, hate. Don't focus on hate, it only makes you go mad or hateful yourself. Instead, realize that Israel is built on love. Love of land, love of family, love of God, and in no particular order. Now, if you truly love something, with discernment, then there is that which you do not include in that love, lest you become some kind of love-everything wishy-washy and go sit on a mountain. And that which you do not love, which is perceived as interfering with exercising your love, you may even be said to hate. That is the natural implication, culturally. We should not judge others by how they choose to love, it is said. Accept that when, for example, some Israelis say that a thousand Arab lives are not worth one hair on one Jewish head, that it is an expression of deep abiding and discerning love they have for their people, and their land.

[FlyersFan]

On the other side of the hate, Israel knows it is being a bully and does deserve some retribution.

Disagree.

Israel has a right to self defense.
The people of Gaza are just deadly punks.
And everyone over the age of 8 is a terrorist backer.

They tried to take over Egypt and failed.
They tried to take over Jordan and failed.
They tried to take over Israel and failed.
They eat, sleep, and breathe hate.
The Muslim world says it backs the people of Gaza.
But in reality none of them give a rats backend about them.
And for good reason.

The people of Gaza caused their own situation.
They could have had a beautiful resort sea-side country.
But they chose to be terrorists and they chose to be uneducated.
So now they live with the consequences.