Who Will be the Next Pope.....

[FlyersFan]

Again in theory... is it true that no ordained clergy is "limited" or "exempt" from being elected Pope...

An interesting thing, if true.

Any baptised Catholic male can be elected pope.
My husband could be.  The neighbor could be.   Etc.
If a nonpriest is elected pope, he would immediately be ordained Bishop of Rome 
and then he'd be declared pope on top of that.
It HAS happened.  But not for something like 500 or 600 years.  Can't remember.

[FlyersFan]

I'll see if I can post an image ...
Never tried this before ...
https://spiritdailyblog.com/news/52864

[FlyersFan]

said on other thread -

"Francis" replacements.   The good, the bad, and the disasters ...

https://revolver.news/2025/04/pope-franc...disasters/
 1. Cardinal Péter Erdo – GOOD
Traditional, disciplined, not flashy, and no interest in turning the Church into a woke social club. Solid, serious pick who actually respects doctrine.
2. Cardinal Robert Sarah – GOOD
The dream pope for traditional Catholics. Unapologetically bold, anti-woke, fiercely pro-life. But he’s 79 and way too real for the Vatican elites to ever back.
3. Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa – GOOD
Tough, grounded, and not playing globalist games. Doesn’t go full trad, but definitely not woke either. A respectable, stable choice.
4. Cardinal Charles Bo – BAD
Too focused on social justice and “interfaith” outreach. Leans left when it counts. Not a warrior for tradition.
5. Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith – GOOD
Quiet, serious, and committed to old-school Catholicism. He respects tradition and isn’t chasing modern trends—but his age might work against him.
6. Cardinal Daniel Sturla – GOOD
Orthodox, clear-headed, and not afraid to speak the truth in a secular culture. Underrated, but very solid.
7. Cardinal William Goh – BAD
Way too weak. Talks tradition, but plays both sides. Not trustworthy when it comes to holding the line.
8. Cardinal Willem Eijk – GOOD
He’s tough on the moral issues, speaks plain truth in a world that hates it, and doesn’t play games with Church teaching. No fluff. Just solid.
9. Cardinal Fridolin Ambongo – MIXED
Good on resisting the LGBT agenda, but leans too political and activist-heavy. Could go either way.
10. Cardinal Peter Turkson – BAD
Globalist energy. Big on climate change and wealth redistribution. Not a defender of tradition—more of a “Vatican insider” type.
11. Cardinal Pietro Parolin – VERY BAD
Deep State Vatican. Helped sell out Catholics to China. Globalist to the core. This guy would be a disaster.
12. Cardinal Matteo Zuppi – DISASTER
Woke, progressive, and already trying to remake Church teaching. Basically Francis 2.0 with a faster, better-built motor. Hard no on this guy.

[Maxmars]

I think it is vitally interesting to observe this process (what we can,) 

but the "short-list" really only indicates "popularity/social standing/perceived virtue" by "people."

Who is good or bad is a worldly perception, we foist upon the role by "popularity."

In a presumptive ideal circumstance, one steeped in 'good' feelings, the sincere and heartfelt
communal prayer and reflection will lead the conclave towards a candidate for GOD's Church,
not who does or doesn't appear compliant to worldly garbage that are contrivances of 
petty personal alliances and populist activism.

Does the ideal exist?  I don't know.  Can it? I don't see why not.
Will it?  We seem to never avoid the 'virtue signals' so who's to say?
We make many excuses to complicate a simple matter... we are litigious.
Everything has to be parsed, distilled, re-resolved...

But the question is really much simpler than we think.

Everybody seems to create expectations about 'social' commentary, as if that mattered,
what matters is that the bride of Christ MUST have a representative...
expectations of "position" and "virtue appearance" are strictly HUMAN CONCERNS.

If the sincerity of devotion to the Church could shunt all that "media-prompted"
bullshit out of the mix... and then faith can provide guidance there... if allowed.

[FlyersFan]

Trump put out a picture of himself as pope.
Make Vatican Great Again! (MVGA)

I"m not offended.  
I get that he's trolling the left and the press,
getting them going and then watching them melt down.
But I'd rather see him working ... not spending time on joking around like this.

Actually ... a newly baptised Catholic Trump being pope would be interesting.
He'd clean out the liberal cardinals who are destroying the church and he'd
make the corrupt Vatican bank accountable.   (Some cardinal would probably 
poison him like they did Pope John Paul I.)

Foxnews.com

[FlyersFan]

In a presumptive ideal circumstance, one steeped in 'good' feelings, the sincere and heartfelt
communal prayer and reflection will lead the conclave towards a candidate for GOD's Church,
not who does or doesn't appear compliant to worldly garbage that are contrivances of 
petty personal alliances and populist activism.

You sound like Cardinal Muller from Germany.
He spoke out about how the next pope can't be a political activist like "Pope Francis" was.
https://thecatholicherald.com/cardinal-m...ot-chosen/

Müller says he disagrees with the use of the labels “liberal” and “conservative” for the Catholic Church, pointing out the divide in the Church is deeper. The new pope, he said, “must be orthodox – neither a liberal nor a conservative”.
 
He said that “the question is not between conservatives and liberals but between orthodoxy and heresy”, adding: “I am praying that the Holy Spirit will illuminate the cardinals, because a heretic pope who changes every day depending on what the mass media is saying would be catastrophic.”
 
The next pope, Müller argues, should not “look for the applause of the secular world that sees the Church as a humanitarian organisation doing social work”.

[other side]

He'd clean out the liberal cardinals who are destroying the church and he'd
make the corrupt Vatican bank accountable.

While the Church desperately needs these, along with someone who'll take the sex crimes and scandals head-on and follow wherever they lead, that person isn't getting a 2/3 vote from the current cardinals.

Wonder if, on the first day of the Conclave, someone would have the courage to declare the Francis cardinals illegitimate and order them to leave the Chapel.  Not happening, but maybe enough of an outside chance for the extreme secrecy?

[Good Bacteria]

RIP Dr. Father Malachi Martin

[Heiden]

Without minding sounding callous, they will pick whichever black guy they can find that is high ranking and will kowtow to the globalist agenda.  They love using people's skin tones to 'strengthen ' their support and signal their worldliness.  

The progression has already been from conservative, to very antiCatholic and dare I say, progressive, so the progression must push further for inclusion!

My money is on 1. Peter Turkson (Ghana)

But if that is too much of a jump, they will go for the smoother transition from white mainstream, to 'worldlier face'  by way of an Asian:
2. Luis Antonio Tagle (Philippines)

You heard it here first folks.  Get your bets

Someone with Italian roots. I would like to see the black American tho.

[UltraBudgie]

Wouldn't it be fun if the new Pope immediately opened up the Vatican archives?

Pressure is growing on the Vatican to shed light on whether it was aware of a UFO being retrieved from Italy in the 1930s, amid a slew of claims about the U.S. government's knowledge and handling of contact with alien life.

It follows claims made by David Grusch, a U.S. Air Force veteran who previously worked at the National Reconnaissance Office on UFOs, in an interview in June that an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) was recovered from Magenta, a town near Milan, in 1933, before becoming a U.S. possession with the help of the papal state.

The "whistleblower" was among three people to recently testify to the House Oversight Committee on the allegations. He repeated his earlier claim that the federal government had been aware of non-human activity since the 1930s.

https://www.newsweek.com/vatican-pressur...ch-1816908

Oh, and that Fatima thing.

Also, Jesus.