Which is stronger? Love or Hate?

[andy06shake]

Sure .. love is better .. but is it stronger?
Look at the world today ... which is 'winning'?
If you add in Christian theology then love wins
because they have the notion that in the end 
good wins over evil in the afterlife.   But I'm 
talking about the here and now ... minus the 
theology.    Which is winning?   Good or evil?
Looks to me like evil is winning on planet Earth.

My experience is that most people, most days of the week, choose small acts of love and compasion Flyers.

Helping strangers, raising kids, building things, keeping promises, doing good deeds, etc.

Most people are good at heart, because that's how they were raised and brought up. 

And despite the state of play, our respective societies literally run on trust and goodwill.

If evil were truly winning, systems and society would collapse completely.

And they haven't.

Hate makes headlines and generates clicks.

The love works quietly in the background...

[David64]

There is an old saying - 'Love is stronger than hate".

That makes a good sound bite ... but is it true?

If you take life on Earth and measure which is stronger,
love or hate , it seems very obvious that hate is stronger.

It isn't until you add the Christian notion of an afterlife with
a loving creator God doling out rewards and punishments 
that you can possibly get the 'love is stronger than hate'.

I say that on Earth, hate is stronger than love.
It's more motivating.   It has more passion.   
It has more energy.  It is more binding.

And yes, some people love to hate.

What do you say ... which is stronger?   Love or Hate?

And that's not a judgement upon hate.  
Hate isn't necessarily a bad thing.
It all depends on the situation and what is hated.

Hate is stronger.

Love comes and goes, but is never unconditional. Love comes with a set of rules.
You love the person you're married to { well most of us do } but what if that person cheats on you or does something equally bad ?

Is your love so unconditional that you overlook it ? Forgive and forget and life goes on as usual ? I can only answer for my self, but that answer is no.

If I love someone, I love them as long as they abide by the rules. If you give me a reason to stop loving you, I will.

Give me a reason to hate you and nothing you can do will ever change that.

[FlyersFan]

If evil were truly winning, systems and society would collapse completely.

Unless the system supports evil.

Example that I gave ... 100 million people murdered by communism in the 20th century.
Communism is still running strong.   It gets weaker, then it gets stronger.   It's still here.

[andy06shake]

Unless the system supports evil.

Example that I gave ... 100 million people murdered by communism in the 20th century.
Communism is still running strong.   It gets weaker, then it gets stronger.   It's still here.

I don't think there is any real doubt that those regimes caused immense suffering and loss of life.

But that reflects how power is used.

Not proof that evil always wins.

And the same thing could be said about Europeans arriving in the Americas.

Who, funnily enough, brought the Christian ethos to the continent.

Systems rise and fall, and ideas persist in different forms.

But survival doesn't equal moral victory.

It's a constant struggle aka...the human race.

[Creaky]

How much of our path is freely chosen and how much is out of our control?
We have very limited free will.   
Lots of the big stuff that happens to us is out of our control.

I think we all have a choice in how we treat each other
Outside of that, we have very little control of how others treat us, their freewill
Our freewill vs theirs, thinking God allows people to choose their own path, good or bad and as for hate, it’s evil as is revenge, it kills us 
Plenty of science that indicates hate harms the person who is the hater

[andy06shake]

I think we all have a choice in how we treat each other
Outside of that, we have very little control of how others treat us, their freewill
Our freewill vs theirs, thinking God allows people to choose their own path, good or bad and as for hate, it’s evil as is revenge, it kills us 
Plenty of science that indicates hate harms the person who is the hater

The tickets not even that complicated.

You simply treat people how you find them.

The problems arise when you have something i want, or vice versa.

And/or what we are willing to do to get that thing...

[argentus]

Hate is easier

Yes.   It might even be the default for those who lack the sand to work/fight for what is good.  

It has been said that the opposite of hate is not love, but indifference.   I believe that is true.

[argentus]

Curiously enough, I also believe that the opposite of love is indifference.

At least if you hate or love, the object of your focus makes a difference.

[putnam6]

There's individual personal love and hate within your social circle

And there is collective love and hate of the general public

I have very little personal hate and try to limit tapping into public sentiment.

We have a lot of evil, perverted, sleazy, crooked, and corrupt hateful energy, for lack of a better word, hate is louder and easier to tap into

Love requires thought, introspection, work, time, energy, and patience ie coping skills that are seemingly a lost art.

[Maxmars]

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Love requires thought, introspection, work, time, energy, and patience ie coping skills that are seemingly a lost art.

Those skills are not lost, I believe...

Only cast-aside by 'appearances foisted upon us' like a scary mask, or a carrot... and the repeated displacement of family love for "television love."




Metaphorically speaking, love is a blossom that can only be smothered.
It thrives by nature. Often arriving unbeckoned, most unlikely to be forgotten.

Equally metaphorically, hate generally runs at 100+% RPMs, it's unsustainable.

A certain kind of hate might actually render love as if dead...
it's a caustic hate that damages the carrier...

Hate's culmination is it's death.  It's purpose is to end.
Hate is a consumption...
A digging friction longing to find an end.

Love expands... real love doesn't end... ever.
But love requires intent of an earnest heart, a willing soul... not words.

It thrives within faith, and separate from it... any kind of faith...

Love appears to be a better choice in all contests... even if only to root for.

That's a human thing too, I suspect.
Perhaps it's a human delusion...
But it's one humans seem built to endure.