Which Bible Do You Trust, and Why?

[UltraBudgie]

No, not in my world.

Well then I suspect you need go outside Christian scripture to find what you're looking for, such as in the Bodhicaryāvatāra

[quintessentone]

Well then I suspect you need go outside Christian scripture to find what you're looking for, such as in the Bodhicaryāvatāra:

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Where I will go outside of Christian scripture is to the psychology realm to understand the human condition in the here and now.

[wrayth]

The bible is no longer gods word, its mans word. it was changed countless times to mans ends. several books including the book of christ were taken out.

[quintessentone]

The bible is no longer gods word, its mans word. it was changed countless times to mans ends. several books including the book of christ were taken out.

Yes, somehow Christ's words to love your neighbor as yourself just didn't fit into the narrative, so it got little exposure.

[FlyersFan]

You don't have proof, plain and simple.  

The proof is all around you, plain and simple.

If Noahs Ark happened 4,000 years ago, then everyone on the planet would have the same DNA, the same culture, the same language, and the same religion.   We don't.   The fact that you speak English and that you don't have Noahs DNA running inside you are your own personal proof that Noahs Ark didn't happen.

If Noahs Ark happened then Egypts civilization would have been interrupted ... it wasn't.   We have proof of a continuing culture before, during, and after the supposed Noahs Ark timeframe.   Same with China.   Same with the Aborigines in Australia.   Same with India.  etc etc.

The FACT is that there is no way for the penguins to get to the middle east and back to Antarctica.   Same with armadillos from Texas.  Same with kangaroos from Australia.   Same with sloths of South America.   etc etc.

The FACT is that there is no way that the ark could have held two of every species, plus their food supply for a year, plus their fresh water for a year.   The FACT is that there is no way the ark could have held enough insects and their food supply that would have been required to feed all the species of insect eaters and birds that the ark would have to have carried.

The FACT is that shipbuilding skills didn't exist back then to be able to build an ark that size ... let alone 4 landlocked men having to take decades and decades to do so.   They would have been clueless as to what to do to build it and the boat would have rotted before they finished.  

Proof ... plain and simple.   Read and educate yourself.
The impossible voyage of Noahs Ark

[Roma]

An NGO site?  LMAO, whatever you say.

I did a quick search and found these which contradict your findings:

https://www.foxnews.com/travel/researche...ns-country

Oh, and Google also says this:  

People also ask 
What evidence is there that the Bible is true?  

3) Historical documents and archeology confirm the Bible is accurate. Not only does the Bible include truthful spiritual content, but also it records historical and geographical details with remarkable accuracy. Archaeological evidence is consistently being found.

The FACT is that there is more proof that it actually happened than not.  

Edit:  Removed the rest because I don't feel like arguing with an atheist in a Bible thread.  Apologies.

[FlyersFan]

An NGO site?  LMAO, whatever you say.

I did a quick search and found these which contradict your findings:

https://www.foxnews.com/travel/researche...ns-country

Oh, and Google also says this:  

People also ask 
What evidence is there that the Bible is true?  

3) Historical documents and archeology confirm the Bible is accurate. Not only does the Bible include truthful spiritual content, but also it records historical and geographical details with remarkable accuracy. Archaeological evidence is consistently being found.

The FACT is that there is more proof that it actually happened than not.  

Edit:  Removed the rest because I don't feel like arguing with an atheist in a Bible thread.  Apologies.

1 - The information provided is accurate.   You fail to address the points made.   

2 - I didn't say the entire bible was allegory.   I said that some parts of the bible are historical, some are allegorical, some is myth, some is poetry.    And that's true.

3 - No .. the FACT is that there is massive proof that it did not happen and there is ZERO proof that it did.   ZERO.

4 - I'm not an atheist.   Stating the FACT that the Noahs Ark story is not historical but is in fact allegorical has nothing to do with if a person believes in God or not.

You failed to address the factual information given that shows Noahs Ark didn't happen.

  You fail.  No surprise.

[FlyersFan]

I did a quick search and found these which contradict your findings:

https://www.foxnews.com/travel/researche...ns-country

  LMAO.

It's a  natural rock formation.   
And the so called 'anchor stones' are native to that mountain.
The claims that it's Noahs ark have been debunked over and over.
Weak.

The Archaeologist - Separating fact from fiction
Bogus Noahs Ark Site in Turkey - Department of Geology CSUN
Surupinar Debunked - Academia.Edu


Oh ... and Ron Wyatt was a known hoaxer and liar.
Anything he promoted can automatically be put in the trash can.

Ron Wyatt Exposed

Even the country of Israel issued a warning about that guy because of his
fake claims in their country.  Total liar and fraud.

[Roma]

1 - The information provided is accurate.   You fail to address the points made.   

2 - I didn't say the entire bible was allegory.   I said that some parts of the bible are historical, some are allegorical, some is myth, some is poetry.    And that's true.

3 - No .. the FACT is that there is massive proof that it did not happen and there is ZERO proof that it did.   ZERO.

4 - I'm not an atheist.   Stating the FACT that the Noahs Ark story is not historical but is in fact allegorical has nothing to do with if a person believes in God or not.

You failed to address the factual information given that shows Noahs Ark didn't happen.

  You fail.  No surprise.

Well then, since you're the resident genius, please explain why the Ancient Sumerian civilization also speaks of a flood.  
 
While you're at it, if Noah did not exist as you say then why can you trace is genealogy directly to Abraham?   

Ooh wait, here's Google with the linneage:

The biblical genealogy from Noah to Abraham follows the line of Noah's son, Shem. The lineage is: Shem, Arphaxad, Shelah, Eber, Peleg, Reu, Serug, Nahor, Terah, and finally Abram (Abraham). This chain of descent shows a succession of ten generations after Noah through Shem.  

But yeah, he didn't exist and I'm sure you'll find another NGO to debunk it.

[FlyersFan]

Well then, since you're the resident genius, please explain why the Ancient Sumerian civilization also speaks of a flood.  
 
While you're at it, if Noah did not exist as you say then why can you trace is genealogy directly to Abraham?   

Compared to you .. yes I'm a genius.     OF COURSE the Sumerians speak of a flood ... that's where the Hebrews got the story from.   They stole the fictional story of  Gilgamesh from the Sumerians and rewrote it and adapted it to the Hebrew religion and the Hebrew culture.   DUH.   Just because different civilizations have flood stories scattered in their history doesn't make the Noahs Ark story true.   In fact, it is more proof the Noahs Ark story is false.   Because if Noahs Ark story was true then every culture would be speaking the same language and worshipping the same God and have the same DNA and have the exact same story of Noahs Ark.  THEY DO NOT.

Noah did not exist.  It's a fictional story.   Just because someone makes up a story naming people in ancestry doesn't mean it's true.    Abraham supposedly existed 2,000 BC or so.  His story wasn't written down until 1,000 BC or so.   There is ZERO chance it's an accurate story.   People can't get a story straight passing it around for one day let alone 1,000 years.  

You still have not addressed all the massive evidence that proves Noahs Ark is a fake story.   Good luck with that.