What to do about the 9 percent without American pride

[chr0naut]

AS a Veteran, I have to ask, how many do you know?

Aren't veterans (in general) people who had devoted their time to the perpetuation and actioning of warfare? Most veterans intended to kill or maim others, removing their opponents of the human right to a fair trial?

In truth I would place many veterans at about the same scale as serial killers in morality or ethicality.

[argentus]

Aren't veterans people who have devoted their time to the perpetuation and actioning of warfare?

People who apply summary justice against others who have allegedly intend harm, but have not been tried under law, and may not have actually committed any such infraction. And the soldier fully intends to kill or maim their opponent.

In truth I would place veterans at about the same levels as serial killers in morality or ethicality (in fact, many were serial killers).

I have never before wished so fervently for a 'dislike' button.  You have the hubris to characterize all veterans as war criminals not yet tried.  Regardless of which country you live in (and frankly I honestly don't give a shit), soldiers have defended your country and you owe them your respect.   You would place veterans as about the same level as serial killers.   You are trying to trigger people into saying things that will get them actioned.   I think that is a bullshit way of doing things.   I will not be so triggered, however I will say that I wish you get that which you deserve.   I wish the same for myself.

[Maxmars]

Aren't veterans people who have devoted their time to the perpetuation and actioning of warfare?

People who apply summary justice against others who have allegedly intend harm, but have not been tried under law, and may not have actually committed any such infraction. And the soldier fully intends to kill or maim their opponent.

In truth I would place veterans at about the same levels as serial killers in morality or ethicality (in fact, many were serial killers).

The term veteran, in my usage, means someone who faced service with honor and respect.   Of course this is not universally true, as with all human affairs... just like not all activists dream of inciting an assassin...

Get it?

As for devotion of life to a task, most veterans serve as they commit... and leave when they have honored their commitment... so it's not like there are hordes of people who chose it as a life-style. 
That's a Hollywood mind-virus.

I personally would be offended if you were referring to my duty and performance in my 12 years of active duty,  I would be at least superficially hurt, if you were intimating that the things which I did were somehow a reflection of evil and oppression... but you may believe as you will...

The flatness of your assertion tells me there is something beyond the open disdain... but whatever that is remains yours to unravel...

[chr0naut]

The term veteran, in my usage, means someone who faced service with honor and respect.   Of course this is not universally true, as with all human affairs... just like not all activists dream of inciting an assassin...

Get it?

As for devotion of life to a task, most veterans serve as they commit... and leave when they have honored their commitment... so it's not like there are hordes of people who chose it as a life-style. 
That's a Hollywood mind-virus.

I personally would be offended if you were referring to my duty and performance in my 12 years of active duty,  I would be at least superficially hurt, if you were intimating that the things which I did were somehow a reflection of evil and oppression... but you may believe as you will...

The flatness of your assertion tells me there is something beyond the open disdain... but whatever that is remains yours to unravel...

There are very many people well paid and full-time employed in making warfare.

Each side has been told that they have the moral high ground and are protectors.

But they intend murder.

[DBCowboy]

Who the fuck are you to try and post up on a vet and call them a coward? You're nothing but an internet tough guy that would probably piss themselves if faced with half the shit a vet is expected to on a daily basis. As far as I've ever seen DB has only ever called evil commies evil commies. If the truth hurts cupcake go cry in a corner in mommy's basement.

Thanks.

DB

[DBCowboy]

I have never before wished so fervently for a 'dislike' button.  You have the hubris to characterize all veterans as war criminals not yet tried.  Regardless of which country you live in (and frankly I honestly don't give a shit), soldiers have defended your country and you owe them your respect.   You would place veterans as about the same level as serial killers.   You are trying to trigger people into saying things that will get them actioned.   I think that is a bullshit way of doing things.   I will not be so triggered, however I will say that I wish you get that which you deserve.   I wish the same for myself.

I've been spit on by better classes of people.

[Bootless]

There are very many people well paid and full-time employed in making warfare.

Each side has been told that they have the moral high ground and are protectors.

But they intend murder.

But wait just a minute!
Earlier you included Oskar Schindler in this group:
"I am talking about the likes of Mother Theresa, Oskar Schindler, Mahatma Ghandi, Florence Nightingale... etc.

These humanitarians are exceptional."

Are you aware that Schindler was a Nazi intelligence officer before acquiring (confiscated from Jewish founders) the enamelware factory? He also was manufacturing ammunition for the Nazi war machine. In later life it became evident that he had no real skill in running a business. He lived off of the Jews he had rescued.
See: The Parable of the Shrewd Manager (Luke 16:1-9).

There is a system. In peacetime people join the military 'cuz it's a job. When they get out, they are veterans. Didn't John the Baptist tell the soldiers something like "Don't extort, and be content with your wages."?

In the end we get old and get cut from jobs and lose benefits because "DEI is bad" they say.
‘Extra Cruel’: Trump Admin Ends Job Program for Seniors as Work Requirements Loom

The Trump administration has reportedly terminated the Department of Labor’s only job training program for low-income seniors, a decision that came as older Americans braced for new work reporting requirements under the Republican budget law enacted earlier this month.
 
Bloomberg Law reported Friday that the Labor Department “quietly ended” its Senior Community Service Employment Program (SCSEP), which helped low-income Americans aged 55 or older find part-time employment or job training at nonprofits and government agencies. The program, described as a bridge to full-time employment, served tens of thousands of people across the country.
 
Groups that received funding under SCSEP, such as the National Council on Aging and Goodwill Industries, “say the program stopped giving them money after June 30,” according to Bloomberg Law, which reported that the Labor Department “hasn’t made available the roughly $300 million set aside for national grant recipients.”
 
The Trump White House has proposed zeroing out funding for SCSEP in its budget request for fiscal year 2026, smearing the program as an “earmark to leftist, DEI-promoting entities.”

[UltraBudgie]

lol don't diss vets in america
it's rude
not culturally sensitive
and they get snowflakey
or some get a far away look in their eyes and then get real real quiet
that's not nice either

"The noblest fate that a man can endure is to place his own mortal body between his loved home and the war's desolation." ― Robert A. Heinlein, Starship Troopers

"America, fuck yeah!" — Randolph S. Parker, Team America World Police

[argentus]

lol don't diss vets in america
it's rude
not culturally sensitive
and they get snowflakey
or some get a far away look in their eyes and then get real real quiet
that's not nice either

"The noblest fate that a man can endure is to place his own mortal body between his loved home and the war's desolation." ― Robert A. Heinlein, Starship Troopers

"America, fuck yeah!" — Randolph S. Parker, Team America World Police

No.  Don't dis vets anywhere.  Ever.   Some of them have sacrificed everything for you.   If you didn't serve, you don't have the standing to judge them.  Ever.

[UltraBudgie]

see what i mean
it is third rail