Vladimir Putin 'spits in Trump's face'

[Kurokage]

I don't know... I means we always paint Russia with a very broad brush...

I think that leads to a resentment, as I have yet to find the trope-style Russians media has forced down our throats,
the same kind of applies to other stereotypes which people seem to actually want to adhere to.

I doubt that the "imagery" we are accessing from 'publications' are genuine 'reporting.

The news is always delivered from the most 'profitable' or 'influential' vantage.  Stressing the "opinions" and "positions" of both "authority" and self-proclaimed 'common sense.'  Doesn't matter where it is ... it's all the same.

If Putin had literally "spat" in anyone's face during a negotiation... then we'd have gone full WWE.

And all reason is lost to theatrical performances....
Hey wait,...
That is the media's "story" ... they already have us there.

It's only a phrase Max'

The phrase "spitting in the face of" is often used to express disrespect or contempt towards someone or something. It can imply treating someone with low esteem or betraying their trust.

The tabloid press are using it to show how little respect Putin has for Trump and the negotiation process here, and I tend to agree with them. I'm not a fan of Trump but I support his attempts at trying to get a peace agreement (even if he's buried his nose in Putin's ass aa few times). Putin has done nothing but show the world he can drag him along with nothing more than a nice phone call.

[FlyersFan]

Putin has been playing Trump all along,

Agreed.   Putin wants what he want and nothing is going to stop him.

But the kicker on the side of all this is that Ukraine is corrupt as hell so the USA and Europe pouring money into it to fight the Russian invaders is going to fill shady Ukraine politicians bank accounts.

[FlyersFan]

I mean i actually thought Trump was a lot better equipped for the job of dealing with Mad Vlad than his predecessor.

He is.
And it's still not enough.
I don't think anyone can deal with Putin.
He's a mad man with an unstoppable agenda.

[UltraBudgie]

that makes more sense but it is still not a phrase that is merely disrespect that is bioassult and they shouldn't imply it if they don't want to warmong

[andy06shake]

He is.
And it's still not enough.
I don't think anyone can deal with Putin.
He's a mad man with an unstoppable agenda.

His nation is on its arse, which hardly equates to unstoppable.

I get the agenda part all the same.

I've seen Trump do little more than bend over and give him the red carpet treatment thus far Flyers.

Can't give people like that an inch, for very obvious reasons.

Ronald Reagan would have wiped the floor with Putin by now imho.

[Oldcarpy2]

He is.
And it's still not enough.
I don't think anyone can deal with Putin.
He's a mad man with an unstoppable agenda.

Same could be said of Trump......proper sanctions might help, though.

But with Trump's flip flop ping and Witless' sycophancy to Putin, who knows?

And why is Jared involved?

[FlyersFan]

I've seen Trump do little more than bend over and give him the red carpet treatment thus far Flyers.

Agreed.
He's being played.
Partly because Zelenskyy has played the USA for years.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Zelenskyy and Putin both suck.
Putin sucks way more though.

[FlyersFan]

And why is Jared involved?

Is he?
He did good with the Middle East and the Abraham accords.
But I think Putin could chew him up and spit him out.
It's a whole different deal with Putin ...

[Kurokage]

Agreed.   Putin wants what he want and nothing is going to stop him.

But the kicker on the side of all this is that Ukraine is corrupt as hell so the USA and Europe pouring money into it to fight the Russian invaders is going to fill shady Ukraine politicians bank accounts.

It is a difficult position for us to be in.

But it's better to do deals with Ukraine with supplies of military hardware and training than just sending funds (which is what should have been done in the first place) and not limit the use of anything they've bought. 
Also the majority of the corruption is the left overs from the fall of the USSR and the Kremlin have done a full propaganda mission on the US in trying to shut down any support for Ukraine. I'm not saying that Ukraine doesn't suffer from corruption but it's not the be all and end all of support for a country fighting off an invading dictators army.

[Oldcarpy2]

Is he?
He did good with the Middle East and the Abraham accords.
But I think Putin could chew him up and spit him out.
It's a whole different deal with Putin ...

Yes.  He was with the WITKOFF delegation in Moscow.




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