Updated Windows 11 - serious problems for some users

[ArMaP]

It is a serious problem for us, and for my Mom.   Both of us don't have the System Requirements to upgrade.

Do you have to upgrade? Some of the computers I use at work are still using Windows 7.

[ArMaP]

The cheat code is linux proficiency. I thank goodness I switched 20 years ago, in the early 2000s. I've been able to not only avoid the black void, but fly right though it. I just upgraded my notebook last week: pulled the old ssd, attached it via usb to the new machine, booted gparted from another usb stick, cloned the old ssd to the new machine's nvme, resized partitions and chrooted into the os to update grub, rebooted and tweaked the nvidia drivers, and boom! No os or app reinstall necessary. Everything moved over and working. Easy as cake¹. All clouds avoided. Try that with windows!


¹ Disclaimer: may require several years of baking experience

I did that a few months ago with Windows Server 2019.

[DontTreadOnMe]

This reported OS issue seems to be a problem...
 


Latest Windows 11 updates may break the OS's most basic bits

and 

KB5072911: Explorer, the Start menu, and other XAML-dependent apps might not start or close unexpectedly on some enterprise devices


I share it here just in case we see a further impact of this design choice.  

As usual, the more you tap the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.

Am I correct, only some business computers are affected?

"primarily affects a limited number of enterprise or managed environments,"

[DontTreadOnMe]

The cheat code is linux proficiency. I thank goodness I switched 20 years ago, in the early 2000s. I've been able to not only avoid the black void, but fly right though it. I just upgraded my notebook last week: pulled the old ssd, attached it via usb to the new machine, booted gparted from another usb stick, cloned the old ssd to the new machine's nvme, resized partitions and chrooted into the os to update grub, rebooted and tweaked the nvidia drivers, and boom! No os or app reinstall necessary. Everything moved over and working. Easy as cake¹. All clouds avoided. Try that with windows!


¹ Disclaimer: may require several years of baking experience

Now say that in English, budgie!!!!

[Hypntick]

Hums along in Windows 10 with Kali VMs as my workhorses

[ArMaP]

Am I correct, only some business computers are affected?

From what Microsoft says, it's possible by very unlikely to happen on a "normal" computer, because, if I understood it right, it happens to Windows systems that are updated before any user logs in, and that usually happens on large companies in which Windows is preinstalled from a base installation before a new user uses it.

If the IT department updates that base installation with the affected update and uses it to install a new Windows on a computer, then when the user goes to make their first log in, the problem appears.

[DontTreadOnMe]

From what Microsoft says, it's possible by very unlikely to happen on a "normal" computer, because, if I understood it right, it happens to Windows systems that are updated before any user logs in, and that usually happens on large companies in which Windows is preinstalled from a base installation before a new user uses it.

If the IT department updates that base installation with the affected update and uses it to install a new Windows on a computer, then when the user goes to make their first log in, the problem appears.

Could it be lying in wait on a used, former business computer?

I ask only in case someone is considering buying a used machine....you used to be able to get deals at places like TigerDirect.

[ArMaP]

Could it be lying in wait on a used, former business computer?

I ask only in case someone is considering buying a used machine....you used to be able to get deals at places like TigerDirect.

I don't know, the refurbished computers I have bought (two for home and five or six for work) had a mix of first log in and already logged in.

[DontTreadOnMe]

I don't know, the refurbished computers I have bought (two for home and five or six for work) had a mix of first log in and already logged in.

Thanks.
I used to get my machines used.   Just saw TigerDirect closed it's doors two years ago.......

[Maxmars]

Depends on where the machine was before you got it.

Many times it's from companies that buy massive quantities and they then send it to you...

but the OS on it is either preinstalled [enterprise], or they install it first [maybe enterprise]...

Used to be, no systems just "came with OS" as part of the purchase... only branded machines planted their logos in the OS...

Otherwise it was something you had to 'decide' to buy... or use from open sources.

Looks very much like Open Source wins... if only from the "quit breaking my machine with your 'features' and don't "auto" anything..." perspective.