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(06-16-2025, 02:06 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Especially where the likes of early church authorities were concerned.
After all, they did outlaw and declare the religion to be heretical.
And then did the same with the likes of the Cathars, where the Gnostic philosophy resurfaced.
Dont like competition that mob to say the least, Church of St Peter that is.
Ja, it's all a bit of a mess, but it's a touchy subject and folks has belief and I can't fault them for that. I try and stay out of the politics. Love is the law or something like it.
Thus did he hound them on, and in one body they rushed straight at the wall as he had bidden them, and scaled the battlements with sharp spears in their hands.
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(06-16-2025, 02:32 PM)Sirius Wrote: Ja, it's all a bit of a mess, but it's a touchy subject and folks has belief and I can't fault them for that. I try and stay out of the politics. Love is the law or something like it.
I kind of envy them the peace of mind their religious convictions must bring them.
Where love is concerned, well, if more people loved one another, the world would be a different place.
Wishfull thinking through, considering what we get up to, and the crap we perpetuate towards one another.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(06-16-2025, 02:55 PM)andy06shake Wrote: I kind of envy them the peace of mind their religious convictions must bring them.
Where love is concerned, well, if more people loved one another, the world would be a different place.
Wishfull thinking through, considering what we get up to, and the crap we perpetuate towards one another.
I never had a choice in much more than my own reactions when it comes to matters of belief, peace of mind didn't come from belief or religious conviction. Working through my shit brought that..
Finished watching the interview Diana had with Danny Jones. Something is strange here, will have to read her books. hope it's good.
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(06-16-2025, 10:08 AM)sahgwa Wrote: I have a set of Enochian 'kit' I have only used about 2 times in the 6 or so years I have had it, as I was not 'frequency upgraded' enough before.
Symptoms of not being ready include 'pressure' 'weight' 'stifling' 'fear' .
I invoked various angels on 2 occasions. On one time , through the skrying crystal a giant eyeball just peered out at me, almost like some Sauron type shit.
It was quite annoyed I had bothered it, with such a lowly frequency as mine. I quickly 'shut the door'
I think I am far readier now though ,so I would like to get into it more seriously.
It can be fairly confusing, there are many rituals and 'programmes' to follow to do it properly and also safely.
Brief notes I took from a friend's podcast point out that the Enochian world can be worked via 3 systems:
Heptarchic = 7
Elemental/ Watchtowers = 4
The Aethyrs = 30
I agree with this poster:
first is the Heptarchia Mystica, >which governs time, the second is the Watchtower system, which governs >matter, and the third is the Aethyr system, which governs space.
Hope that is a helpful overview . The heptarchic system is the confusing one, with far more 'hierarchy' to placate.
I highly recommend Lon Milo Duquette's book 'Enochian Vision Magic'
The worst books are anything by the Schuelers
Hi! I'm new to the subject and I already got Lon Milo douquette's book. I'm scavenging other books online as well and there's a fair amount of criticism towards these Schuelers people? I will find out for myself but meanwhile can you expand on "the worst books are anything by the Schuelers"
Thanks man! That Lon Milo book looks very interesting
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(06-17-2025, 12:09 AM)chivo Wrote: Hi! I'm new to the subject and I already got Lon Milo douquette's book. I'm scavenging other books online as well and there's a fair amount of criticism towards these Schuelers people? I will find out for myself but meanwhile can you expand on "the worst books are anything by the Schuelers"
Thanks man! That Lon Milo book looks very interesting
I read through Lon's book once and I have to say it is very dense, but very thorough. I have to read it again to try and parse it out more.
I even made up a cheat sheet of procedural :D
I can't recall the specifics at this time, as I was discussing Gerald Scheulers work years ago but I believe a large part of the criticism was wrong attributions, and sloppiness/ leaving out data or procedure.
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