USA just sunk a drug boat from Venezuela

[CriticalStinker]

Good catch. Thank you.
The photo was community noted as being from a Spanish drug bust last year and not the more recent strike.

The destroyed boat was US intel tracked as an ELN-affiliated narco boat evading patrols with smuggling hallmarks, not a stalled fishing craft.
Petro’s claim of veteran fisherman Alejandro Carranza remains unverified by neutral probes, countered by survivor releases and strike patterns yielding drugs in prior ops.

The other aspect that challenges the official narrative is we just repatriated two “narco terrorists” after they survived one of the strikes. We released them to their home countries of Colombia and Ecuador.

If these terrorists are so dangerous we have to do military strikes on them, why did we just release some of the survivors instead of putting them through our court system to try and expose their higher ups?

It should be noted we said they would face prosecution in their home countries, yet we’re in a spat with Colombia at the moment.

Something seems off.

[Vermilion]

The other aspect that challenges the official narrative is we just repatriated two “narco terrorists” after they survived one of the strikes. We released them to their home countries of Colombia and Ecuador.

If these terrorists are so dangerous we have to do military strikes on them, why did we just release some of the survivors instead of putting them through our court system to try and expose their higher ups?

It should be noted we said they would face prosecution in their home countries, yet we’re in a spat with Colombia at the moment.

Something seems off.

We don’t kill prisoners.
They were sent back to their own countries to be put in their own countries prison system.

[CriticalStinker]

We don’t kill prisoners.
They were sent back to their own countries to be put in their own countries prison system.

I wasn’t implying we should kill the prisoners.

I just find it curious we didn’t want them to go through our court system to expose the network.

Think about it this way, we’ve deemed these “narco terrorists” such a threat we’ve been using our military to kill them without even showing evidence to the populace. This is post 9/11 style strikes.

Yet we just catched and released some of the survivors? 

We’ve deployed military assets capable of a small scale war, and we finally got some of the targets in custody, and we just let them go.

That doesn’t seem odd to you?

Sounds to me we didn’t want all this coming up in our courts.

[Vermilion]

I wasn’t implying we should kill the prisoners.

I just find it curious we didn’t want them to go through our court system to expose the network.

Think about it this way, we’ve deemed these “narco terrorists” such a threat we’ve been using our military to kill them without even showing evidence to the populace. This is post 9/11 style strikes.

Yet we just catched and released some of the survivors? 

We’ve deployed military assets capable of a small scale war, and we finally got some of the targets in custody, and we just let them go.

That doesn’t seem odd to you?

Sounds to me we didn’t want all this coming up in our courts.

Have you seen the evidence against bin Laden or any other terrorist we droned over the past two decades?
Must you continue to insist you are shown information you’re not privy to?
Do you demand that your butcher produce documents showing you the where, how, when and why that cow was slaughtered before you buy?

Do you have any idea how many people we sent to Cecot?
All of a sudden sending criminals back to their own country to face their own criminal justice system is bad?
Do you think America holding onto to every criminal foreign national is a good policy?
It’s almost like you know the answers but OMB gets in the way.

[CriticalStinker]

Have you seen the evidence against bin Laden or any other terrorist we droned over the past two decades?
Must you continue to insist you are shown information you’re not privy to?
Do you demand that your butcher produce documents showing you the where, how, when and why that cow was slaughtered before you buy?

Do you have any idea how many people we sent to Cecot?
All of a sudden sending criminals back to their own country to face their own criminal justice system is bad?
Do you think America holding onto to every criminal foreign national is a good policy?
It’s almost like you know the answers but OMB gets in the way.

Bin Laden took credit for the attacks, and while we didn’t see all the evidence, there were several reports released to the public.

It was in our rage after the attack we let the word terrorism take us wherever the government led us.

I think a more accurate comparison would be did we see the evidence of Iraq having WMD. 

Why would I suddenly take the government at their word on foreign policy when we’ve had many decades of absolute failure? Especially when said admin has talked so much about waste, fraud, and abuse while we continue staging a force capable of invasion next to a country that might account for 5% of the drug trade to the US.

We’ve had a war on drugs for around half a century, no closer to victory now than when it started. Hell, there’s been compelling evidence some of the alphabet agencies have been in on the trade.

Most drug deaths come from opiates, yet some of the domestic pharmaceutical companies got let off the hook when they lied about addiction and risks. We don’t even attempt to go after reasons why citizens would allow themselves to be hooked on such drugs.

Instead, we are talking about using the full force of our military on a country that wouldn’t even change the flow of drugs if we toppled them. 

If people can’t see how backwards and wasteful all of that is for zero meaningful result, than I don’t know what to tell them.

[Vermilion]

Bin Laden took credit for the attacks, and while we didn’t see all the evidence, there were several reports released to the public.

It was in our rage after the attack we let the word terrorism take us wherever the government led us.

I think a more accurate comparison would be did we see the evidence of Iraq having WMD. 

Why would I suddenly take the government at their word on foreign policy when we’ve had many decades of absolute failure? Especially when said admin has talked so much about waste, fraud, and abuse while we continue staging a force capable of invasion next to a country that might account for 5% of the drug trade to the US.

We’ve had a war on drugs for around half a century, no closer to victory now than when it started. Hell, there’s been compelling evidence some of the alphabet agencies have been in on the trade.

Most drug deaths come from opiates, yet some of the domestic pharmaceutical companies got let off the hook when they lied about addiction and risks. We don’t even attempt to go after reasons why citizens would allow themselves to be hooked on such drugs.

Instead, we are talking about using the full force of our military on a country that wouldn’t even change the flow of drugs if we toppled them. 

If people can’t see how backwards and wasteful all of that is for zero meaningful result, than I don’t know what to tell them.

I dunno man, using a $100,000 hellfire to destroy millions of doses of poison destined for America , while taking out a few scumbag terrorists, seems like a pretty good use of taxpayer money to me.
I’ll continue to vote for that.

[CriticalStinker]

I dunno man, using a $100,000 hellfire to destroy millions of doses of poison destined for America , while taking out a few scumbag terrorists, seems like a pretty good use of taxpayer money to me.
I’ll continue to vote for that.

I don’t think the cost is just for the hellfire missile though, you have to factor in the total military presence there.

Also, from everything I can find, including our own government sources, Venezuela accounts for 5% of the drug trade at most, and that’s cocaine. 

Opiates and fentanyl are what’s poisoning/killing Americans. And again, we’ve been at this war for half a century yet you can go to any city and find the drugs of your choosing. I don’t see how using our military to go after such a small portion of the trade is going to change that, at best it simply sends a retaliatory message to one of the smallest players. At worst it’s just justification to get our foot in the door to the country with the largest oil reserves on the planet.

If someone was serious about addressing drug problems in America, I’d simply look at improving quality of life so people didn’t have the despair in the first place to look for the escape of drugs.

People are welcome to do their own research. But mine has found most of the opiate crisis originated from overprescription, and then ironically correlated with the war on terror. Afghanistan was the number one producer while the crisis blew up here, and our soldiers even defended the poppy fields there. So I find it odd we’re suddenly taking such a hard stance on drugs, using our military, and going after the wrong player, who has such a small part in the game and selling a drug that makes up a small minority of deaths.

[Vermilion]

I don’t think the cost is just for the hellfire missile though, you have to factor in the total military presence there.

Also, from everything I can find, including our own government sources, Venezuela accounts for 5% of the drug trade at most, and that’s cocaine. 

Opiates and fentanyl are what’s poisoning/killing Americans. And again, we’ve been at this war for half a century yet you can go to any city and find the drugs of your choosing. I don’t see how using our military to go after such a small portion of the trade is going to change that, at best it simply sends a retaliatory message to one of the smallest players. At worst it’s just justification to get our foot in the door to the country with the largest oil reserves on the planet.

If someone was serious about addressing drug problems in America, I’d simply look at improving quality of life so people didn’t have the despair in the first place to look for the escape of drugs.

People are welcome to do their own research. But mine has found most of the opiate crisis originated from overprescription, and then ironically correlated with the war on terror. Afghanistan was the number one producer while the crisis blew up here, and our soldiers even defended the poppy fields there. So I find it odd we’re suddenly taking such a hard stance on drugs, using our military, and going after the wrong player, who has such a small part in the game and selling a drug that makes up a small minority of deaths.

It’s a half a dozen ships or so conducting real world training.
That’s good for the military and bad for narco terrorists.

We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

This is a sea change in how we’re tackling the war on drugs and narco terrorists so your resistance to change is noted as just that.

[CriticalStinker]

It’s a half a dozen ships or so conducting real world training.
That’s good for the military and bad for narco terrorists.

We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

This is a sea change in how we’re tackling the war on drugs and narco terrorists so your resistance to change is noted as just that.

A sea change by going after 5% of the trade with the full weight of our military is not impressive to me.

Seems like a waste of resources, and political capital considering we’re blowing up vessels in international water without proving our case to the global community, much less our own populace.

[Vermilion]

A sea change by going after 5% of the trade with the full weight of our military is not impressive to me.

Seems like a waste of resources, and political capital considering we’re blowing up vessels in international water without proving our case to the global community, much less our own populace.

“The full weight of the mighty American military”

It’s like 6 ships and they’d be training similarly anyway.

They are telling everyone who they demolished, when, where, how, and are releasing video when it happens.
It’s very transparent, other than the classified things you think you’re entitled to see.
Would you like a Diet Coke also?

Your resistance to change is noted.
The old system wasn’t working.
“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
It was broken.
We’re going to have to wait and see how effective this new plan is.
So far narco terrorists, drugs, and their drug equipment are being eradicated and I have no doubt the word is spreading that stepping foot on those boats is a death wish.
Justice is not just punishment, it’s a deterrent.