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USA just sunk a drug boat from Venezuela
(09-05-2025, 10:37 AM)RuchardHurt Wrote: They said the same thing about the Jews.
I think I am done ever responding to you.


The Nazis said the same thing about the jews.......most of the civilized world agrees that terrorists don't have any basic human rights. 

And yet I have a feeling you will continue to because it strokes that fragile ego of yours....
(09-05-2025, 10:37 AM)RuchardHurt Wrote: They said the same thing about the Jews.
I think I am done ever responding to you.

That's how it works. Dehumanize and label people, in this case without proof, so as to justify illegal actions.

"Legal experts and former national security officials have disputed the president’s legal authority to launch extrajudicial killings against suspected drug traffickers, raising consequential questions on both the administration’s growing conflict with Venezuela, and the president’s anti-immigration agenda.“There is zero evidence of self-defense here. Looks like a massacre of civilians at sea,” according to Adam Isacson, director for defense oversight at research and advocacy group, Washington Office on Latin America. “Even if they had drugs aboard, that’s not a capital offense.”
 
Lethal force against civilians in international waters “is a war crime if not in self-defense,” according to Isacson. “‘Not yielding to pursuers’ or ‘suspected of carrying drugs’ doesn’t carry a death sentence.”
 
Even if one were to accept the administration’s framing of the attack, “this action is legally questionable under both U.S. and international law,” according to Juan S. Gonzalez, a former National Security Council official under Joe Biden."

Was Trump’s Venezuelan boat attack a ‘war crime’? Experts say extrajudicial killings violate international law
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-05-2025, 10:59 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Even if one were to accept the administration’s framing of the attack, “this action is legally questionable under both U.S. and international law,” according to Juan S. Gonzalez, a former National Security Council official under Joe Biden."

Ah yes, but you have failed to consider: so what?
(09-05-2025, 11:03 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Ah yes, but you have failed to consider: so what?

Just bringing to light what may be the truth beyond the programme, that's what.
"The only journey is the one within."
The boat was a 4-engine fast boat with no visible fishing gear before the strike coming from one of our adversaries...Venezuela.  They were not fishing for tuna.  They were on a direct path.  

Checks all my boxes.

I worked for years out of Venezuela before if flipped Communist.  One of the most beautiful countries in South America.  Great food and beautiful women as well.  But the communists ran that economy into total collapse... And even imprisoned many of our American Chevron oil workers.  This is what communism looks like.

I yearn for the day Venezuela goes capitalist again.

As for those waterborne Narco-Trafficantes...good riddance.

73's
(09-05-2025, 11:03 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Ah yes, but you have failed to consider: so what?

Is that an indication that U.S. policy is currently to say "Fuck You International law" ?

I seem to remember that policy sort of turned that way during Bush's War Of  On Terror. I can't remember the exact wording, something like "and not allowing international standards from eroding our ability to pursue our goals"

Quick search brought up a book review.
 
Quote:I will focus here on a different undercurrent threaded beneath many of the calls for reform in Koh’s book. Koh calls for Congress to take back up its constitutional role over warmaking, for judges to return to longstanding judicial doctrines that look to international law in interpreting constitutional or statutory provisions, and for the executive branch to reform how national security legal advice is coordinated and enshrined to make better use of international law expertise in specialized agencies. He calls for a new framework for thinking about the president’s power to make international agreements unilaterally, and for when the president can end them.
 
Underlying each of these proposals is one harsh and unspoken background reality: international law is becoming a third rail in American politics today. International law plays a significant role in so many aspects of American life, from business to communications to the food we eat to public health to preserving natural resources to peace and security. Yet political rhetoric today suggests widespread ignorance about what international law even means, and often advances misinformation and fear about what it can do.
 
In stark contrast to longstanding precedent, judges today often deny a role for international law as a rule of decision or tool of interpretation in U.S. courts. The presidency, which has as a result amassed almost exclusive control over the making, interpreting, and breaking of international law for the United States, siloes its expertise in a legal office within the State Department that wields little power within the government and rarely in recent years even gets a politically confirmed head. And the United States’ ability to ratify treaties has been drying up as the Senate refuses to provide advice and consent to agreements—or even consider whether to do so.
 
There is thus a justifiable fear today that if a reckless president withdraws the United States from critical institutions or treaties, they may face few political consequences for doing so, and the United States may never be able to rejoin.

Confronting the War on International Law in the United States
There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people. - Commander William Adama
(09-05-2025, 10:46 AM)EXETER Wrote: I am upset.  I think he should have changed it to the Department of Imperial Conquest, Killing, War, And Destruction—DICKWAD, for short.  Then Hegseth could be addressed as SECDICKWAD.



Your butt hurt is noted.
Tumble
Lol  It's Büéllër Time  Lol
 
Sorry Charlie only the best tuna gets to be Starkist.

The big Cartels are NOT going to be able to reclaim The U.S. Southwest for Mexico.

Not this time.  Lol
Lol  It's Büéllër Time  Lol
 
(09-05-2025, 02:15 PM)Bootless Wrote: Is that an indication that U.S. policy is currently to say "Fuck You International law" ?

I seem to remember that policy sort of turned that way during Bush's War Of  On Terror. I can't remember the exact wording, something like "and not allowing international standards from eroding our ability to pursue our goals"

Quick search brought up a book review.
 


If your black savior Obama can drone American citizens then Trump can certainly drone non citizen narco terrorists.
So screw the UN.
If congress wants to impeach him, go for it.
Good luck with those optics LoL



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