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(09-04-2025, 04:07 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: Defending drug running terrorists is not a good look for you guys.
Neither is blowing up boats and then claiming they were drug-smuggling, people-trafficking terrorists.
Without providing any actual real evidence that this was the case.
It looks more like an attempt to draw attention away from being named in the Epstein files.
And the boat couldn't have reached the USA anyway, and that much is clear.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(09-04-2025, 04:49 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Yes that’s correct.
If you’d like to be in the loop then become a citizen and join the military.
You’re obviously an armchair genius so it should be easy for you.
Until then, it’s above your pay grade.
Stay in your lane.
Don’t board any terrorist drug boats and you’ll be just fine.
The risk of trafficking drugs into America is now death.
America no longer possesses suicidal empathy for terrorist drug cartels. As usual, your rant is full of exaggeration, false framing, hatred, and spite.
U.S. citizenship is not required to be informed about military or political matters.
Your democracy depends on civilian oversight and open discussion.
And claiming drug trafficking carries "the risk of death" ignores reality.
U.S. law punishes trafficking with prison, fines, and asset seizure, not summary execution.
And labeling cartels as "terrorist" is political rhetoric, not a legal fact, if thats even what they were.
They are criminal organizations.
Suggesting America "no longer has empathy" misrepresents your law enforcement as mercy.
When in reality it's supposed to be rooted in strategy, legality, and human rights.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(09-04-2025, 05:02 PM)andy06shake Wrote: As usual, your rant is full of exaggeration, false framing, hatred, and spite.
U.S. citizenship is not required to be informed about military or political matters.
Your democracy depends on civilian oversight and open discussion.
And claiming drug trafficking carries "the risk of death" ignores reality.
U.S. law punishes trafficking with prison, fines, and asset seizure, not summary execution.
And labeling cartels as "terrorist" is political rhetoric, not a legal fact, if thats even what they were.
They are criminal organizations.
Suggesting America "no longer has empathy" misrepresents your law enforcement as mercy.
When in reality it's supposed to be rooted in strategy, legality, and human rights.
“Tren de Aragua (TdA) is a designated Foreign Terrorist Organization with thousands of members, many of whom have unlawfully infiltrated the United States and are conducting irregular warfare and undertaking hostile actions against the United States. TdA operates in conjunction with Cártel de los Soles, the Nicolas Maduro regime-sponsored, narco-terrorism enterprise based in Venezuela, and commits brutal crimes, including murders, kidnappings, extortions, and human, drug, and weapons trafficking.”
“December 2024, INTERPOL Washington confirmed: “Tren de Aragua has emerged as a significant threat to the United States as it infiltrates migration flows from Venezuela.” Evidence irrefutably demonstrates that TdA has invaded the United States and continues to invade, attempt to invade, and threaten to invade the country; perpetrated irregular warfare within the country; and used drug trafficking as a weapon against our citizens.
Based upon a review of TdA’s activities, and in consultation with the Attorney General and the Secretary of the Treasury, on February 20, 2025, acting pursuant to the authority in 8 U.S.C. 1189, the Secretary of State designated TdA as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.”
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-...de-aragua/
You really should read this entire EO.
This is all the due process they deserve.
It’s a done deal.
The Constitution requires no further process.
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(09-04-2025, 01:15 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Yep. As in inferring that you are a bit...gung ho?
The actual "terrorists" are the drug kingpins, not the lackeys.
Go after the Cartels if you want to make a difference. Hey, Oldcarpy.
It's a 'WAR' on drugs...and the "lackeys" are the Cartel's soldiers.
Much like Ukrainian soldiers have to kill Putin's soldiers in order to survive.
Going after the cartel's "kingpins"...means going after Maduro.
Are you suggesting that the US should also drop a missile on Maduro?
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(09-04-2025, 05:20 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Yeah, it used to be called that. Should be again. It's more honest. Besides, what official wars has the "Department of Defense" actually won? Grenada?
Well the first Gulf War was a pretty good success too.
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(09-04-2025, 05:14 PM)Vermilion Wrote: “Tren de Aragua (TdA) is a designated Foreign Terrorist Organization with thousands of members, many of whom have unlawfully infiltrated the United States and are conducting irregular warfare and undertaking hostile actions against the United States. TdA operates in conjunction with Cártel de los Soles, the Nicolas Maduro regime-sponsored, narco-terrorism enterprise based in Venezuela, and commits brutal crimes, including murders, kidnappings, extortions, and human, drug, and weapons trafficking.”
“December 2024, INTERPOL Washington confirmed: “Tren de Aragua has emerged as a significant threat to the United States as it infiltrates migration flows from Venezuela.” Evidence irrefutably demonstrates that TdA has invaded the United States and continues to invade, attempt to invade, and threaten to invade the country; perpetrated irregular warfare within the country; and used drug trafficking as a weapon against our citizens.
Based upon a review of TdA’s activities, and in consultation with the Attorney General and the Secretary of the Treasury, on February 20, 2025, acting pursuant to the authority in 8 U.S.C. 1189, the Secretary of State designated TdA as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.”
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-...de-aragua/
You really should read this entire EO.
This is all the due process they deserve.
It’s a done deal.
The Constitution requires no further process.
And you really should be able to prove that's exactly who that was in the boat, so that's you, and Trump.
Never mind the other obvious question you refuse to address.
Like how the boat could not have made it anywhere near the USA, without the fuel to cross the Caribbean Sea, overladen with alleged terrorists and drug cargo?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(09-04-2025, 05:22 PM)andy06shake Wrote: And you really should be able to prove that's exactly who that was in the boat, so that's you, and Trump.
Never mind the other obvious question you refuse to address.
Like how the boat could not have made it anywhere near the USA, without the fuel to cross the Caribbean Sea, overladen with alleged terrorists and drug cargo?
Yes, boats and planes and trains and automobiles can’t get to America without fuel.
There’s this fancy invention called a fuel tank though.
I could go on further but the point is that boat was full of terrorists with drugs and weapons and it doesn’t matter where they were at.
They are a legitimate dangerous terrorist organization and being a member comes with consequences.
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(09-04-2025, 05:31 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Yes, boats and planes and trains and automobiles can’t get to America without fuel.
There’s this fancy invention called a fuel tank though.
I could go on further but the point is that boat was full of terrorists with drugs and weapons and it doesn’t matter where they were at.
They are a legitimate dangerous terrorist organization and being a member comes with consequences.
And do you imagine many speed boats carry fuel tanks large enough to take them 1000 miles across the open ocean?
Do we see any additional fuel drums on board?
No, we dont.
Or drugs for that matter.
Nope dont see any, just people.
You see, at the end of the day, you can't get drugs in any sort of quantity, fuel, and 12 people onto a craft that side, and have it make the journey in question.
But hey, ho if it fits the narrative, and takes some of the sting away from the Epstein files....
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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