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US citizen, 67, ‘has ribs broken’ by Border Patrol agents
(10-30-2025, 11:28 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: They are federal agents lawfully doing their jobs you don't get to impede that with parking your car in the middle of their operation and blowing the horn your car or age doesn't extend you those extra rights.


They may be federal agents, but they seem to be abusing their powers here.

I didn't realise honking your horn is a now seen as a dangerous weapon??



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(10-30-2025, 11:33 AM)Kurokage Wrote: They may be federal agents, but they seem to be abusing their powers here.

I didn't realise honking your horn is a now seen as a dangerous weapon??
The running vehicle is...
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― William T. Sherman
(10-30-2025, 10:45 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: So being impolite is justification for this sort of brutality in your World?  Yikes....

We don't have all the info so I'm going with what you wrote for the moment.

I'd post the South Park "You will respect my authority" Cartman thing but I'm rubbish at embedding on my phone.

Anyone help?

Here ya go. 


"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(10-30-2025, 11:37 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: The running vehicle is...

Well if we use your example, then anyone sitting in a vehicle in traffic for example, could now be seen as a legitimate 'target' and be arrested, isn't that an abuse of powers??
Question to officer: "so why did you shoot the driver??" Answer: "I didn't like the way he looked at me whilst his vehicles engine was running!!"



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(10-30-2025, 11:43 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Well if we use your example, then anyone sitting in a vehicle in traffic for example, could now be seen as a legitimate 'target' and be arrested, isn't that an abuse of powers??
Question to officer: "so why did you shoot the driver??" Answer: "I didn't like the way he looked at me whilst his vehicles engine was running!!"
It comes down to intent and that is where courts get involved. The chaotic nature of this situation would make me feel that my life would be in danger by an unstable citizen acting overly emotional and there is established legal precedent to make that argument.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
(10-30-2025, 11:57 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: It comes down to intent and that is where courts get involved. The chaotic nature of this situation would make me feel that my life would be in danger by an unstable citizen acting overly emotional and there is established legal precedent to make that argument.



All those agents felt their life was in danger?

"Unstable"?

Being "overly emotional" is a crime?

Blimey.

Bit of overreach and assumptions going on to justify this here.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(10-30-2025, 12:02 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: All those agents felt their life was in danger?

"Unstable"?

Being "overly emotional" is a crime?

Blimey.

Bit of overreach and assumptions going on to justify this here.
Have you asked them?

Over emotional = unpredictable.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
(10-30-2025, 12:04 PM)SomeStupidName Wrote: Have you asked them?

Over emotional = unpredictable.



No, of course not.  Have you?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
I wasn't asking, I have faith they were acting accordingly.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
Interesting how some try to justify physical brutality when it's clearly unneeded abuse.



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