US citizen, 67, ‘has ribs broken’ by Border Patrol agents

[Kurokage]

A good demeanour is always important.

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Well you do seem to have a very friendly smile!!  

[SomeStupidName]

I agree, courtesy goes a long way, but that should go both ways.  If they dragged him out of his car for honking his horn, then that's excessive force. I can't see a 67 year old intimidating a whole gang of police.

Yes, honking at them invited their actions. Dude fucked around and found out they are not playing, this isn't a game, it's not about your or anybodies "feelings", its simple action and reaction.

FYI you show them courtesy they will show some to you, show up like a hot head honking and running your mouth and you'll get ribs broke.

[FlyersFan]

Make sure you smile when you greet the brown shirts as they wrongfully arrest you, and cart you away!!

Reductio ad Hitlerum

[UltraBudgie]

Yes, honking at them invited their actions. Dude fucked around and found out they are not playing, this isn't a game, it's not about your or anybodies "feelings", its simple action and reaction.

FYI you show them courtesy they will show some to you, show up like a hot head honking and running your mouth and you'll get ribs broke.

Was it just the honking? I haven't seen a police report, so I'm just speculating, but that one interview said the guy was her next door neighbour. And in the video it looked like one of the SUVs was blocking the driveway next door? So maybe he came home, saw his driveway blocked, and parked in the middle of the road blocking traffic insisting they move, maybe honking his horn. When they told him to stop blocking and drive on he refused, which is when they told him they'd drag him out of the car if they had to. He didn't, so they did. Again, this is all speculation, but I think it makes more sense than they just decided to randomly drag him out of the car without warning. It also matches up with what the interview and border patrol said?

[UltraBudgie]

Reductio ad Hitlerum

Augmentatio, actually. The border patrol wishes they were such snappy dressers.

[SomeStupidName]

Was it just the honking? I haven't seen a police report, so I'm just speculating, but that one interview said the guy was her next door neighbour. And in the video it looked like one of the SUVs was blocking the driveway next door? So maybe he came home, saw his driveway blocked, and parked in the middle of the road blocking traffic insisting they move, maybe honking his horn. When they told him to stop blocking and drive on he refused, which is when they told him they'd drag him out of the car if they had to. He didn't, so they did. Again, this is all speculation, but I think it makes more sense than they just decided to randomly drag him out of the car without warning. It also matches up with what the interview and border patrol said?

I agree with you. I would like to see the body cam footage as well. There is always more to the story then being reported, even if it's news you like they always hide something.

I think kurokage is coming from a good place in their heart, just confused about what no one is above the law actually looks like. I wish people would get it in their heads that they shouldn't be within 50 feet of these situations their emotions become too much for them to control and 100% of the time they will cross the obstruction line.

[Oldcarpy2]

Yes, honking at them invited their actions. Dude fucked around and found out they are not playing, this isn't a game, it's not about your or anybodies "feelings", its simple action and reaction.

FYI you show them courtesy they will show some to you, show up like a hot head honking and running your mouth and you'll get ribs broke.

No.  It's about authoritarian brutality.  And proportionality.

[SomeStupidName]

No.  It's about authoritarian brutality.  And proportionality.

no, he was obstructing and got hurt for his little emotional outburst.

[Oldcarpy2]

no, he was obstructing and got hurt for his little emotional outburst.

We don't seem to have all the facts but that doesn't seem to justify such a violent response.

[SomeStupidName]

We don't seem to have all the facts but that doesn't seem to justify such a violent response.

 violent would be the agent took his gun out and blew off the individuals head, pulled from roughly from a car and sustaining minor injuries is standard operating procedure. The individual's car is not some safe space where laws don't exist, you don't get extra rights to not be dragged from your car because it's your car that is an absurd argument are you sure you were a litigator?