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UFOs And Water.
#11
(12-02-2024, 01:36 AM)Sirius Wrote: Someone should notify the IRS that a group is taking natural resources without paying taxes, this will all be solved within a week.


Ha good one mate - got a little bit carried away with this thread after looking into 'light-beam'' cases but certainly some very similar sounding global observations - unfortunately lots of source links have gone for good these days but certain content was saved on archive.

Alsi thought there was a great (and very overlooked) book by engineer James McCampbell linked below and here's the excerpt on the subject of UFO water collection - strange to note but there are quite a number of cases involving UFO occupants collecting (or asking for) water as well.






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Quote:Collection of water has been reported frequently. It would be adequate to take small samples of water in a vial for determination of the dissolved minerals and the level of pollution, either chemical or bacterial.

UFO people, however, sometimes take substantial amounts of water. A Canadian and his wife in 1950 saw a large UFO with portholes "come to rest on the surface of the lake." Ten small people on a deck busily "immersed a hose in the lake" as if pumping water into the craft. (17)

An almost identical performance, also in Canada, had been observed 36 years earlier when eight witnesses saw dwarves plunging a hose into a lake from a spherical craft resting on the water. (18)

While fishing in New York, an electronics engineer saw an object land. Two dwarves "came out with a hose and pumped water from the river." (19)

Another fisherman in Italy saw a UFO hover for 10 minutes over a river with "a hose that plunged into the water." (20) These uses of hoses imply collection of a substantial volume of water, probably more than could be carried in buckets on several round trips.

Any such amount would clearly exceed the immediate requirements of the collectors, and one suspects that it filled the need of a considerable number of their fellows somewhere else.

The intended purpose for water, on one occasion, was made entirely clear to a chicken farmer in Wisconsin. An object came down vertically near his house in which he saw three men through an open hatch. One of them handed him a "silvery jug with two handles" and "made a motion like drinking." The jug was filled with water and returned. (21)

This case is reminiscent of a previously mentioned request for water by a strange woman in Brazil who used the word, "Rempaua." (22) In yet another instance, two fair-skinned men emerged from a UFO in Chile asking a miner for water in a "mixture of English and Spanish." With unusual resourcefulness under the circumstances, the miner took some water out of his car radiator and gave it to them.

(23) Small quantities of water were also obtained by the UFO people without assistance from humans. Two miners saw a UFO land on a sandbar in a California river. One dwarf got out and "filled a shiny pail with water and handed it to someone inside the craft." (24)

Another craft landed at night near a Brazilian fisherman who watched one of three little men fill a "shiny metal tube with water from the river." (25)

UFOLOGY - Chapter 9








(12-02-2024, 01:36 AM)Sirius Wrote: Let's assume hydrogen is what they are after, the oxygen and chlorine would be dumped.  Chlorine we can trace possibly, it's something that would leave a marker I think.


Well have heard lots of speculation over the years from these objects being 'alive' and wanting a 'drink' right through to the water being replenishment for opposite rotating, high frequency, magnetised toroidal plasma engines.

Hats off to you for bringing up the Hydrogen aspect though as there certainly seems to be something going on.

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#12
(12-02-2024, 07:36 AM)Karl12 Wrote: Well have heard lots of speculation over the years from these objects being 'alive' and wanting a 'drink' right through to the water being replenishment for opposite rotating, high frequency, magnetised toroidal plasma engines.

Hats off to you for bringing up the Hydrogen aspect though as there certainly seems to be something going on.

Beer

For the salt water cases I would look for mass animal deaths nearby or plankton blooms or other ecological changes...not sure what "nearby" would be, maybe within a timeframe.

Beside extracting hydrogen, seems like you can make electricity with it directly also.  Electrets are popping up allot lately.

Moving water droplets induced electricity on an electret surface with a charge gradient
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...5523007553

Contact electrification has been studied since as early as 2,600 years ago, but its mechanism is still unclear, especially for liquid-solid cases. In this paper, an innovative water charging method is proposed for the first time. The charge-transfer mechanism is suppressed by the steerable oxygen plasma treatment, and the 3D charge distribution map of NPU shape is obtained through the surface potential scanner. The method was further applied to the DEG and a self-powered thin-film sensor with droplet position monitoring function was prepared. This study demonstrates the feasibility of the proposed water charging method and proposes a new application in the field of water energy harvesting.
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10052517
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#13
Being an old geezer, I remember back when water was considered unique to earth, and why life existed here and nowhere else in the universe according to authorities of that era.  Since those times, we've been told by our master scientists that water is universal.
 
Evidently, the ETs exhaust their supply carried in the "scout" ships and/or in the long-haul cruisers, and must seek out local sources.  Maybe water is their fuel?  Are specialized craft utilized for the operation?  Certainly, the manner used to extract the water seems greatly varied.  Some UFOs may submerge themselves to fill their tanks, and we are none the wiser.

These different manners of resourcing water is indicative that we have several, if not many, different entities visiting us each with their own style of equipment.

The fact that humans have been allowed to witness such logistical operations is indicative that they want us to know what they are doing.  Our oceans are vast enough to hide such activities if that was the desire.

Hey!  Is that the old, "meet me at the watering hole" gimmick?
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#14
Perhaps they hide in our oceans, but require freshwater for their needs. Therefore, they target our lakes and poles... glaciers in particular. 
Quote:Water, water, every where,
And all the boards did shrink;
Water, water, every where,
Nor any drop to drink.

The Rime of the Ancient Mariner

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#15
topping of the tanks sounds reasonable but i hesitate because it just seems so obvious and that's often a redflag; such speculation may be projection.

it is like the skullybone crypt in newhaven; they have the highest water bill in the city -- what are they doing with all that water?

probably not what we think.

it is fun to speculate but perhaps says more about the speculator than the aliens.

removing salt from water just takes 'tricity or energy and if they have zpe for shipzippy that wouldn't seem like a problem? Puzzled

looking for chlorine blooms is goodcall. Thumbup


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#16
Maybe they're after all the microplastics in the water.  Puzzled

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#17
They are taking on water it must be going somewhere as waste or burned up, it's not getting filtered or it would just be recycled and not sucked up all the time.
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(12-02-2024, 03:58 PM)Sirius Wrote: They are taking on water it must be going somewhere as waste or burned up, it's not getting filtered or it would just be recycled and not sucked up all the time.


Could be nothing but you sound far more tech savvy than me and would be interested in your thoughts on this vid - it focuses on Witkowski's research (which inspired Nick Cook's book 'Hunt For Zero Point' PDF) and content from German, Polish, Argentinian and American archives.

Also some pretty wild claims about spinning, ionized plasmas are made in this vid (allegedly Mazda and the Indian Navy are interested) and the reason I bring it up is that apparently 'water replenishment' is the only thing that is needed.

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(12-02-2024, 12:51 PM)AlienSun Wrote: These different manners of resourcing water is indicative that we have several, if not many, different entities visiting us each with their own style of equipment.



Yes mate an insane variety of different UFO and USO (and occupant) shapes being reported over the years and it really does make a person wonder WTF is going on.

Also some freaky reports of UFO occupants collecting water using some kind of 'hose' type apparatus.

(first alleged report comes from the year 1914)





Quote:Georgia Bay, 1914

In 1966, in a letter received at APRO headquarters, after reading several articles by Coral Lorenzen in Fate magazine, a man confided his memories to someone who apparently "would listen to such revelations with a sympathetic ear." The writer said that late one August evening in 1914, a man and woman, their three small children, and three young American men crouched behind rocks and brush along the banks of Lake Ontario at Georgia Bay, Canada, when they saw a round craft, which appeared to be about 15 feet in diameter, rested on the surface of the water about 450 feet from shore. On the square-shaped substructure at the water line, they allegedly saw two small men-like creatures that were busy with some sort of green "hose." The little men worked quickly and seemed to be having some problem with kinks in the hose, by the way they manipulated it. APRO contacted the writer, identified the witnesses, and found out there was nothing to cast doubt on the report.

LINK









Quote:UFOs & Water Case, Palmas, Tocantis, Brazil, March 22nd , 2001.


Vinicius Da Silva and Marta Rosenthal were returning home from a day of fishing in the River Tocantis when they felt a bump in one of the tires. Thinking he had a flat, Vinicius stopped the vehicle and went to check.
He could not find anything wrong with the tire but suddenly heard Marta screaming and saw her pointing to the right side of the road.There, only a few meters away, hovering over the water was a metallic object with small windows along its edge.

Standing outside the object on a ledge was a humanoid figure of about 1.30 meters in height.

The figure was holding something resembling a hose and was apparently sucking water from the river and into the craft. After about two minutes the humanoid pulled up the hose from the river and re-entered the object. The craft then became very bright and shot away horizontally into the sky.


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Quote:UFOs & Water, 1960, Syracuse New York


An electronics engineer was fishing when he heard a shrill, whirring sound and saw a round object, with a rotating light on top, land on the shore.

The sound gradually stopped, an opening became visible, and two dwarfs with oversized heads came out with a hose and pumped water from the river.

Later they appeared to play like children. Their bodies glowed with lights of changing colors.









Quote:UFOs & Water Case, Voronov, Russia, 1969

Heinrich Ivanovich was driving his motorcycle along the Kama River near a wooded area. On the side of the road he noticed a man who suddenly raised his hand as if saluting.

Ivanovich slowed his motorbike and approached the stranger.As he approached he noticed a strange disc-shaped object on the ground close to the stranger. The stranger wore a grayish-metallic overall with thick-soled boots.

The man did not wear a hat and had a short haircut. On his left hand he held a hose-like implement, which was apparently extracting water from the Kama River.

At the end of the encounter the stranger asked Ivanovich to stay back from the object and to just observe it take off. The object had a semi-transparent green colored globular dome on top.

Source and references:

Ravil Ishkakov, Chairman of Tatar Republic committee, on the study of the phenomena of nature.







Also some type of 'hoover' apparatus.





Quote:UFOs & Water Case, Guaiuba, Brazil, March 23rd, 1978.

67-year old Joao Inacio Ribeiro was walking along the oceanfront when he saw a circular object about 10 meters in diameter approach from the sea. It had brilliant blue, yellow, green, and lilac colored lights. On its upper section it had a sort of cabin or cupola with 3 circular windows. The craft approached, stopped, and hovered above the waters, causing the area directly below the object to become agitated and choppy. Ribeiro then saw two short humanoids appear on top of the craft.

The figures were about 1 meter in height, and wore gray colored tight fitting outfits.

The beings were baldheaded, with small noses and mouths and huge black eyes. One carried something resembling a walking cane; the other had what appeared to be a vacuum cleaner like object.

Both beings then began operating the vacuum like object seemingly extracting water from the ocean. After 10 minutes they re-entered the object.


Moments later the object descended to 10 meters above the waters causing them to become even more turbulent, creating large waves and foam. Afraid Ribeiro ran home.

LINK






(12-02-2024, 12:51 PM)AlienSun Wrote: Our oceans are vast enough to hide such activities if that was the desire.


Yes lots going on down there - did you ever go through Skyfloating's 'USO Research' thread (all 40 pages of it)?

A pretty amazing repository of extremely strange global USO reports and (due to active deletion) probably the last place on the internet to find many of the testimonies.

Once compiled a list here regarding Naval orders 'not to discuss' but there are more examples to be found in that thread.

If I can find the time I will try to post some of the archived reports on this forum.

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(12-03-2024, 02:47 AM)Karl12 Wrote: Could be nothing but you sound far more tech savvy than me and would be interested in your thoughts on this vid - it focuses on Witkowski's research (which inspired Nick Cook's book 'Hunt For Zero Point' PDF) and content from German, Polish, Argentinian and American archives.

Also some pretty wild claims about spinning, ionized plasmas are made in this vid (allegedly Mazda and the Indian Navy are interested) and the reason I bring it up is that apparently 'water replenishment' is the only thing that is needed.

Beer

I'll check out Witkowski's research and the video, quickly scanned the pdf, saw lots of mentions to familiar nazi scientists and some very interesting photo's.

On the other topic, oh jeez not this again...what does it even do, its an EGR?...sometimes the mystery only exits in the telling. this youtube comment sums it up
I'm an engineer and I don't understand how anyone with a technical background could hope to understand how this could possibly work. But the guy is disheveled like a scientist and has the beard of a man of wisdom. He has also seen it but I must have missed the part about what it does. Somehow it separates hot and cold air as the exhaust with a 20% Oxygen content which he calls air. And that's useful for doing just about anything. Maybe he's thinking that since air is basically 21% Oxygen and 79% Nitrogen he is right to call the exhaust air. So we have a machine that takes in air and exhausts air. that's an impressive result.
The part that confuses me is what that has to do with plasma except maybe the spark (plasma) to transmute ordinary air into air at the exhaust as in any internal combustion engine which uses the temperature of a flammable substance like gasoline to increase the temperature. Thermodynamics tells us this is useful to do work. Why it's called a storm machine, I cannot understand but then I'm only an engineer.
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