UFOs And Stopped Clocks

[quintessentone]

Looks like there's been a recent cull on specific YouTube UFO videos (and channels) lol.

Anyway thought there was an interesting article below from Professor Michael D. swords dealing with specific incidents like Coyne, Holland-Michigan etc. and cases from the Timmerman files - he also speculates about the Oz factor and being 'caught in a bubble'.


Caught In A Bubble

Cheers.

From your linked article:

You and I know how the Oz Factor is typically described, so I won’t labor you with more examples—there are dozens. This is abundant enough in the close encounter literature that it can be called a regular feature, albeit not a universal one. Theorists have their own takes on it. Mostly they are just humbly confused. I am too. But I would add that, for me, it seems more and more like an ability of the UFO phenomenon to manipulate areas of space. In all of these cases, the behavior of light across the boundary seems probably normal, and so we might guess is the behavior of the rest of the electromagnetic forces.
 
But gravity? Mass-related behaviors? These seem often thwarted somehow—almost as if the gravitational involvement of the Earth itself were taken out of the equation.
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Maybe they don’t. Or maybe they don’t cross the space as it is normally arrayed in our textbook universe. Maybe they can manipulate space. Bubble the small scale? Bubble the long scale? Mess with mass? Mess with inertia? Go really fast in what space—space normal? Instantly vanish—to what area of space?

I was just reading that the James Webb telescope findings is turning our understanding of the universe up on it's big banged up head. The same applies to our Earth-bound, small scale understanding of gravity which seems to not apply to large-scale gravitational realities out there in the cosmos.

I will join the other theorists and claim to also be humbly confused. But, with one more theory, so could a UFO have the technology to warp gravity/electromagnetic forces in such a way as to speed it up in a bubble, therefore slowing time down for the occupants within that bubble (see AI real life time dilation search below)?

I have mentioned this before here, that I too was immersed in that time dilation bubble during one of my contactee experiences; the extreme silence stood out as something that could not be ignored.

Example of real life time dilation:

AI: "Time dilation arises in two situations. In one case, time appears to move slower the closer you are to a massive object, such as the Earth. So a person hovering in a hot-air balloon, for example, actually ages faster than someone standing below. Time also ticks by faster for someone at rest relative to someone moving."

[ARM1968]

Hmm. Let’s see. UFO’s create their own ‘local’ field, or at least seem to use some type of anti gravity or gravity manipulation. Recent scientific studies appear to show some sort of correlation between time and gravity. However that is, or could be, irrelevant, insomuch as perhaps the field from the UFO or gravity manipulation is directly effecting the mechanical of electronic operation of watches, clocks, radios etc. Or, possibly, the field they generate actually has an impact on time itself if you are near enough to it.

Personally I think the first option is more likely but the second cannot be discounted either.

[Darkorange]

Hmm. Let’s see. UFO’s create their own ‘local’ field, or at least seem to use some type of anti gravity or gravity manipulation. Recent scientific studies appear to show some sort of correlation between time and gravity. However that is, or could be, irrelevant, insomuch as perhaps the field from the UFO or gravity manipulation is directly effecting the mechanical of electronic operation of watches, clocks, radios etc. Or, possibly, the field they generate actually has an impact on time itself if you are near enough to it.

Personally I think the first option is more likely but the second cannot be discounted either.

I would state the OP title like 'UFOs and slowed down clocks'. Who said clocks were stopped? More like slowed.

I agree, ARM, gravity has everything to do with missing time if we look at it from physics point of view (General Relativity) and adding to it ufo encounter witnesses who are confirming it indirectly in their testimonies.

Question is...what kind of a device, involving what physics is capable to do this.

[Sirius]

I just take the silence as a sign that shit is about to get crazy and prepare myself to the best of my abilities and pick myself up after.

[quintessentone]

Look what I dug up.

Many claims as to the validity of electrogravitics as an anti-gravity force revolve around research and videos on the internet purported to show lifter-style, capacitor devices working in a vacuum, therefore not receiving propulsion from ion drift or ion wind being generated in air.[sup][5][/sup][sup][12][/sup] Followups on the claims (R. L. Talley in a 1990 U.S. Air Force study, NASA scientist Jonathan Campbell in a 2003 experiment,[sup][1][/sup] and Martin Tajmar in a 2004 paper[sup][13][/sup]) have found that no thrust could be observed in a vacuum, consistent with the phenomenon of ion wind. Campbell pointed out to a Wired magazine reporter that creating a true vacuum similar to space for the test requires tens of thousands of dollars in equipment.
Byron Preiss, in his 1985 book on the current science and future of the Solar System titled The Planets, commented that electrogravitics development seemed to be "much ado about nothing, started by a bunch of engineers who didn't know enough physics". Preiss stated that electrogravitics, like exobiology, is "a science without a single specimen for study"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrogravitics

Maybe this should be looked at in a more modern way including physicists this time (?)

More on alternative propulsions systems by Paul LaViolette -

In 1986, he was the first to cast doubt on the big bang theory by showing that it makes a far poorer fit to existing astronomical data when compared to this new stationary universe tired-light cosmology. Dr. LaViolette is also credited with the discovery of the planetary-stellar mass-luminosity relation which demonstrates that the Jovian planets, brown dwarfs, and red dwarf stars all conform to a common mass-luminosity relation suggesting that energy is spontaneously created in their interiors through over unity photon blue shifting.
In addition, he has developed a new theory of gravity that replaces the deeply flawed theory of general relativity. Predicted by sub quantum kinetics, it accounts for the electro-gravitational field coupling phenomenon discovered by T. Townsend Brown.

https://www.altpropulsion.com/people/paul-laviolette/

AI search: "Predictions and Verification: Subquantum kinetics has made predictions about the nucleon's energy potential profile that have been later confirmed by particle scattering form factor data."

[sahgwa]

This roughly ties together shoddily in my brain in the following correlations:

Outside of the body, OOBE, and astral projection experiences, there is no time.  
Ipso facto non physical = non linear = no time.

OOBE = no gravity = you float.

Therefore , anti gravity = anti time
= 'UFO's 'propulsion' /exist in non physical frequencies. There, time does not exist.

[sahgwa]

I was just reading this:

I am under the impression there are different types of EMFs (electromagnetic, nuclear, solar etc.) and did the watches, battery operated devices etc. restart after the UFO left?

We know that the EMF are a side effect of the operation of these beings/crafts (symbiotic/same), so maybe time is not stopping, so much as not existing in these 'spaces'
They are creating a nonphysical space.
In the other thread I mentioned that at least the beings known as the greys, use physical bodies as a suit, it is not their native frequency, so this ties in with these craft/beings moving in and out of physical reality/creating 'gates' which may be nothing so 'simple' as changing the resonant frequencies of 'matter' and light.

[quintessentone]

We know that the EMF are a side effect of the operation of these beings/crafts (symbiotic/same), so maybe time is not stopping, so much as not existing in these 'spaces'
They are creating a nonphysical space.
In the other thread I mentioned that at least the beings known as the greys, use physical bodies as a suit, it is not their native frequency, so this ties in with these craft/beings moving in and out of physical reality/creating 'gates' which may be nothing so 'simple' as changing the resonant frequencies of 'matter' and light.

Hmm, while in that time dilation bubble (I'll call it that for now), I definitely experienced my physicality (or did I?) by trying to run when I felt the need, but could not due to being physically frozen. I wonder if that being frozen is part of the nonphysical part of it? Interesting concept.

[sahgwa]

Hmm, while in that time dilation bubble (I'll call it that for now), I definitely experienced my physicality (or did I?) by trying to run when I felt the need, but could not due to being physically frozen. I wonder if that being frozen is part of the nonphysical part of it? Interesting concept.

From my experiences OOB and also in my reading, what I hypothesise was happening to you, and other abductees, is that sometimes your 'soul' is sucked out and abducted, while your body is still elsewhere,, so you are having an astral projection or OOBE unwillingly,  and sometimes your whole 'package' physical matter and all, is involved, and it is 'vibrated' into a nonphysical form.  

Kind of like changing a solid to a gas. But obviously this is a state of matter outside of 'Science' . I think both 'modes' are possible and used.  The attraction these creatures feel towards meditational and ritual states, and also experiences of them entering dreams, and people's dreams turning into physical experiences, show a masterful manipulation of the fabric of 'physical' reality and perception.  

It means a new EMF spectrum needs to be drawn up, a kind of Astral Atlas on one side and maybe a super dense 'I dont know what to call it' on the other side

[quintessentone]

From my experiences OOB and also in my reading, what I hypothesise was happening to you, and other abductees, is that sometimes your 'soul' is sucked out and abducted, while your body is still elsewhere,, so you are having an astral projection or OOBE unwillingly,  and sometimes your whole 'package' physical matter and all, is involved, and it is 'vibrated' into a nonphysical form.  

Kind of like changing a solid to a gas. But obviously this is a state of matter outside of 'Science' . I think both 'modes' are possible and used.  The attraction these creatures feel towards meditational and ritual states, and also experiences of them entering dreams, and people's dreams turning into physical experiences, show a masterful manipulation of the fabric of 'physical' reality and perception.  

It means a new EMF spectrum needs to be drawn up, a kind of Astral Atlas on one side and maybe a super dense 'I dont know what to call it' on the other side

Again, super interesting concept because the intense silence during that one specific contactee experience in the time dilation bubble which was outside the ship and my OOBE were of the same magnitude. But other contactee experiences were physical with sound when inside the ship.