08-13-2025, 01:59 PM
(08-12-2025, 09:29 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Well, you obviously have it out for him
No not really, as already stated am a fan of Sagan in other fields and do reckon every school kid should read this book (and watch this vid) but that's not what this thread is about.
Looks very much to me (and many other folks) that he was co-opted by intelligence agencies to blatantly deceive the public about official studies and data on unidentified flying objects and it's well known that astronomers were specifically targeted and recruited as 'debunkers' to 'spread the gospel'.
From 3:40
Quote:• "They were coming up with the conclusion that 'we should debunk the UFO phenomenon' (in essence they should lie about it) and 'here's how we are going to do it'.
One of the key ways this panel commissioned by the CIA pointed as a way of doing this (they called it 'disseminating their gospel') were amateur astronomers.
When you put that in context you say it makes sense that Dr Menzel might be involved in the effort to cover things up because as the nation's leading astronomer who better to convince amateur astronomers that the whole UFO thing is bunk?"
Funny thing is whilst the CIA were engaged in all this disinfo peddling to the American public they were also neck deep in active global investigation of the UFO phenomenon.




