U.S. Economy Grows 4.3%​ in Q3 2025, Fastest in Two Years

[RazorV66]

See IdeomotorPrisoner's post above.

But I also researched it myself.  No need to be redundant.

AI suddenly makes you guys experts on the economy?

[putnam6]

Seriously I don’t actually care whether the stats are real or skewed.

My point is if you and your family are doing fine then that’s all that matters.

Has the economy change affected you or not…

I personally don’t have a dog in the hunt, I’m Canadian and we have our own political bullshit to deal with…

Tecate

Im just bored and discussing stuff, waiting till the cookies are done baking 

 but the stats aren't skewed; they are compiled from multiple sources as always.

This doesn't mean every person, company, or industry sector is up, but overall moving in the right direction

but those numbers are skewed because they are just compiled by URBAN sources, our prices just 26 miles away from a metro area are less in food gas, and recreational in some cases, a lot less. 

gasoline especially is

The point is that the economic numbers are competitive with 2024 at a glance and trending upwards, even with all the fears of an American recession due to the new tariffs, among other moves.

We still need a solid Q4 and Q1 in 2026; no need to give back for the ground gained.

[Tecate]

Yeah healthcare spending going up is a given.

Now it seems that we are hearing about new Billionaires every day, how the ultra-rich are living large and how after divorce they just can’t live on less than $100,000 a month.

Bahahaha, I remember as a kid thinking man, if I could make $3000 a month I could live pretty damn good. I have heard that people pay that for Healthcare.

Meh, as usual, my 2 pesos…

Tecate

[DBCowboy]

I Im smiling at this... a lot. Will be taking the rest of the year off.

We finished up 31% overall over 2024. 



U.S. Economy Grows 4.3%​ in Q3 2025, Fastest in Two Years​​​​​​

Biden took 4 years to ruin the economy, the US, immigration, no-cash bail.

It's going to take a while to fix everything.

But we're heading in the right direction!

[Tecate]

Strange that you say that about Urban vs Rural. 

I’ve noticed that as well in Alberta. The city has gas at a dollar and.29 cents a litre, and out of town about 45 minutes it’s a dollar and nine cents a litre. Seriously?

Groceries are more expensive in the rural areas, but not prohibitively. I guess it’s perspective.

Winter here is when projects like pipelines, drilling and other things are started and really go until spring breakup. (Which means when the frost comes out of the ground and things get sloppy and waterlogged). Up here in the far north (I’m in the NWT working) the winter/ice roads are starting to get built and heavy equipment, large semi-trucks, housing materials etc can be transported to the distant communities, meaning projects need to get done and the equipment sent back before the spring and the winter roads are gone. Here is when you will see a jump in the local economy.

Sorry for the brief wall of text, but I got going and, well you know how it goes.

Tecate

[ANNEE]

Strange that you say that about Urban vs Rural. 

I’ve noticed that as well in Alberta. The city has gas at a dollar and.29 cents a litre, and out of town about 45 minutes it’s a dollar and nine cents a litre. Seriously?

Groceries are more expensive in the rural areas, but not prohibitively. I guess it’s perspective.

Winter here is when projects like pipelines, drilling and other things are started and really go until spring breakup. (Which means when the frost comes out of the ground and things get sloppy and waterlogged). Up here in the far north (I’m in the NWT working) the winter/ice roads are starting to get built and heavy equipment, large semi-trucks, housing materials etc can be transported to the distant communities, meaning projects need to get done and the equipment sent back before the spring and the winter roads are gone. Here is when you will see a jump in the local economy.

Sorry for the brief wall of text, but I got going and, well you know how it goes.

Tecate

I enjoyed your information.

I like process.  How things get done from point A to point B.

[putnam6]

Yeah healthcare spending going up is a given.

Now it seems that we are hearing about new Billionaires every day, how the ultra-rich are living large and how after divorce they just can’t live on less than $100,000 a month.

Bahahaha, I remember as a kid thinking man, if I could make $3000 a month I could live pretty damn good. I have heard that people pay that for Healthcare.

Meh, as usual, my 2 pesos…

Tecate

There's an area healthcare, I don't have health insurance, it's over 600 bucks a month 

Couldn't afford it in 2016, damn sure can't afford it now.

[Tecate]

Here in Canada we have socialized medicine as you know. You hear all kinds of bs stories about waiting times etc and I’m sure some of them are real. But I had stomach cancer a few years back (2021) and it was found and within a month it was taken out. It was a GIST, essentially an encapsulated tumour that had no malignancy. I have been a working Advanced Care Paramedic for a long time and I have never seen anyone turned away with an emergency need, so I can’t really speak to those stories.

I think the biggest problem here is that there just are not enough facilities, surgical theatres etc to keep up with the current needs. Not enough hospitals, doctors and staff.

But we don’t have to have any type of insurance over and above what we have as citizens. 

Your system in the US is drastically different. Yes we have the same technology, training and procedures, but you have privatized hospitals run by corporations. It makes for a different system that costs a fair bit more, but because they are making a lot more they can afford to throw up a few more hospitals etc into the mix. Unfortunately that means that you the consumer will be on the hook for their profits. How do you try to get around it? Insurance!! Yay! 

I wonder exactly how much collusion there is between the two parties there… Why do you pay so damn much for medication? Holy shit, don’t get me started on the Mexico thing that I deal with too.

I buy my meds in Mexico for a quarter of what I pay in Canada, which is probably a quarter of what you pay for the same thing. There’s definitely a two tier system (if not 3 tier) in Mexico. If you work for the government you go to this hospital, if you’re self employed or underemployed you go to that hospital. If you’re loaded you go to a private hospital.

It’s all insanity in my opinion. 

But remember, I’m Canadian and I believe in universal healthcare….

As usual, my 2 pesos…

Tecate

[putnam6]

Here in Canada we have socialized medicine as you know. You hear all kinds of bs stories about waiting times etc and I’m sure some of them are real. But I had stomach cancer a few years back (2021) and it was found and within a month it was taken out. It was a GIST, essentially an encapsulated tumour that had no malignancy. I have been a working Advanced Care Paramedic for a long time and I have never seen anyone turned away with an emergency need, so I can’t really speak to those stories.

I think the biggest problem here is that there just are not enough facilities, surgical theatres etc to keep up with the current needs. Not enough hospitals, doctors and staff.

But we don’t have to have any type of insurance over and above what we have as citizens. 

Your system in the US is drastically different. Yes we have the same technology, training and procedures, but you have privatized hospitals run by corporations. It makes for a different system that costs a fair bit more, but because they are making a lot more they can afford to throw up a few more hospitals etc into the mix. Unfortunately that means that you the consumer will be on the hook for their profits. How do you try to get around it? Insurance!! Yay! 

I wonder exactly how much collusion there is between the two parties there… Why do you pay so damn much for medication? Holy shit, don’t get me started on the Mexico thing that I deal with too.

I buy my meds in Mexico for a quarter of what I pay in Canada, which is probably a quarter of what you pay for the same thing. There’s definitely a two tier system (if not 3 tier) in Mexico. If you work for the government you go to this hospital, if you’re self employed or underemployed you go to that hospital. If you’re loaded you go to a private hospital.

It’s all insanity in my opinion. 

But remember, I’m Canadian and I believe in universal healthcare….

As usual, my 2 pesos…

Tecate

Im for governmental and industry subsidized healthcare for those below a certain income, BUT we can't implement it efficiently until we end our fraud and corruption. It's all too political now.

I watched the American system cripple my parents as we had our father go through chemo and other treatments for stage 4 pancreatic cancer for 19 months. His Medicaid covered some, but not all, treatments, services, and procedures. It took weeks when his doctors switched treatments to get back on schedule. BUT our system loves to treat, but it isn't about affordable cures at all. Don't get me wrong, we knew it was going to be a battle, and we were delaying the inevitable, but after watching how the system works here, the costs, the delays, there have to be more subsidized procedures for catastrophic occurrences 
The number of patients who ran through chemo and radiation treatments is staggering and expensive AF. Endless treatments with not enough cures   

If America had universal healthcare as we have been governed in the past, we'd have another 20 million illegal persons or more, thats too big a carrot, and instead of my $600 I can't afford, and it would likely jack my taxes way up into the stratosphere 

Between our growing elderly population and the broken system for elderly care, the system is made to milk you until you die. And for mostly overly priced and substandard service. I don't know the ultimate answer, but the current system doesn't work well enough either, even with platinum levels of insurance

It's just part of life now, I shouldn't complain too much. Im thankful for all we do have access to, and it's the same healthcare thats kept Mom going into her late 80s.

[putnam6]

Strange that you say that about Urban vs Rural. 

I’ve noticed that as well in Alberta. The city has gas at a dollar and.29 cents a litre, and out of town about 45 minutes it’s a dollar and nine cents a litre. Seriously?

Groceries are more expensive in the rural areas, but not prohibitively. I guess it’s perspective.

Winter here is when projects like pipelines, drilling and other things are started and really go until spring breakup. (Which means when the frost comes out of the ground and things get sloppy and waterlogged). Up here in the far north (I’m in the NWT working) the winter/ice roads are starting to get built and heavy equipment, large semi-trucks, housing materials etc can be transported to the distant communities, meaning projects need to get done and the equipment sent back before the spring and the winter roads are gone. Here is when you will see a jump in the local economy.

Sorry for the brief wall of text, but I got going and, well you know how it goes.

Tecate

No worries, Im enjoying the discussion and imagining all you have to go through, I like hearing how everybody lives makes me appreciate how easy I have it at the moment. 

Im extremely happy we were able to pivot from an office space to work from home. I really miss the travel and routine, but eventually I should be able to resume working that way if I want or need to. 

Here in the Southeast US, everything is cheaper in the suburban and rural areas compared to the metro areas, a lot cheaper LOL, relatively safer too. 

My goal is to get some land and a small home in the lower Appalachians, as a home base, but have the flexibility to travel and work elsewhere