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(09-28-2025, 02:57 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I posted a link to: "Born Different" -- kids born with all kinds of disabilities. But you have no interest in that because it doesn't "hit home".
My mom was a polio victim in the '51 epidemic -- paralyzed from the waist down -- I was 5 years old. We belonged to a disabled group -- ALL disabilities. I learned early "people are their heart".
My oldest daughter diagnosed ADHD back about 1971. Younger daughter undiagnosed high functioning Autism.
For the last 17 years -- I've been raising my Autistic grandson.
So, yeah -- please tell me again I don't care about people born different.
Can you please deflect some more? All of the above is BS. there isn't a human on the planet that doesn't have a problem. And speaking of problems.
The problem is. You are willing to sacrifice a bunch of people, for a hand full of supposed autistic that were famous.
I'll ask you again like the 10th time. Would you stop autism before it started if you could? And clearly your answer is no.
Some where along the line, in your thinking a critical error has occurred. And instead of correcting the error. You are doubling down on it.
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(09-28-2025, 03:06 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: Can you please deflect some more? All of the above is BS. there isn't a human on the planet that doesn't have a problem. And speaking of problems.
The problem is. You are willing to sacrifice a bunch of people, for a hand full of supposed autistic that were famous.
I'll ask you again like the 10th time. Would you stop autism before it started if you could? And clearly your answer is no.
Some where along the line, in your thinking a critical error has occurred. And instead of correcting the error. You are doubling down on it.
Trump and his unqualified staff are not trying to stop autism, if they were they would ban pesticides and other chemical poisons in the environment.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(09-28-2025, 03:17 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Trump and his unqualified staff are not trying to stop autism, if they were they would ban pesticides and other chemical poisons in the environment. Yes, because autism didnt exist until we started using pesticides and every other chemical that ever comes into contact with our bodies.
Ignorance at its best
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(09-28-2025, 03:05 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Hey ANNEE, will the 15th time be the charm to educate those here that Tylenol hasn't been proven to cause autism?
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"Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) has no single known cause. Research indicates that it is likely the result of a complex interplay between various factors, including:
The above specifies 'pesticides' not medications.
"Exposure to Environmental Pesticides and the Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorders: A Population-Based Case-Control Study"
"Conclusions: Overall, this research suggests a connection between heightened environmental pesticide exposure due to increased agricultural use and autism."
Exposure to Environmental Pesticides and the Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorders: A Population-Based Case-Control Study - PMC
I suppose we may see a decline in autism now that Trump has screwed the farmers.
Doubt it -- in the "before ATS" -- when "they" didn't like an answer -- "they'd" claim it wasn't answered.
Unless you agree with "them" - - they stick their fingers in their ears.
Have you seen brain scans comparing an Autistic brain to a "normal" brain? There is just so much going on in there.
I'd say specific areas of the brain could be manipulated. I've recently read discussions about studies on speaking -- as those areas of the brain are identified.
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(09-28-2025, 03:26 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: Yes, because autism didnt exist until we started using pesticides and every other chemical that ever comes into contact with our bodies.
Ignorance at its best
Nobody is claiming that autism did not exist until they started using pesticides. I posted a credible scientific study that associates pesticides with autism. If I find other scientific studies that claim additional associations, I will post them too.
Ignorance at its best. Stick to what you know best, the butt end of guns.
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(09-28-2025, 03:17 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Trump and his unqualified staff are not trying to stop autism, if they were they would ban pesticides and other chemical poisons in the environment.
Autism is mostly genetic. And is not new -- only recognizing it under a larger spectrum is new.
However, as in any other living thing -- there are environmental factors.
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(09-28-2025, 03:33 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Doubt it -- in the "before ATS" -- when "they" didn't like an answer -- "they'd" claim it wasn't answered.
Unless you agree with "them" - - they stick their fingers in their ears.
Have you seen brain scans comparing an Autistic brain to a "normal" brain? There is just so much going on in there.
I'd say specific areas of the brain could be manipulated. I've recently read discussions about studies on speaking -- as those areas of the brain are identified.
They are using the same lame schticks from ATS and it doesn't work here on DI.
No I haven't seen the brain scans on that, but the last time I looked they are advancing very quickly in the neuroscience arena.
Imagine manipulating the brain or using neuroplasticity treatments to open up neural pathways.
Did you see this?
"How Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy Can Help Treat Autism"
"Namely, a 2018 study conducted by D. Erritoze and colleagues, administered 2 doses (10mg and 25mg) of psilocybin to 20 participants over the course of two weeks. The participants also received therapeutic support that included preparation and integration sessions.
The NEO Personality Inventory-Revised instrument was used to measure change from baseline in the 5 domains of personality. Results found that participants experienced a clinically significant decrease in neuroticism (p<0.002), and a clinically significant increase in extraversion (p<0.00) and openness (p<0.012). "
" These findings indicate that psilocybin mushrooms significantly increase extraversion and openness while decreasing neuroticism, offering strong support for the potential social-enhancing benefits of psychedelics in people with autism. "
How Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy Can Help Treat Autism | Psychedelic Passage
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(09-28-2025, 03:06 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: I'll ask you again like the 10th time. Would you stop autism before it started if you could? And clearly your answer is no.
That is your issue. And it is not a Yes or No answer.
Autism is a very complex spectrum. Famous people? NO -- you totally miss that it's about what they have contributed to humanity.
Would I have wanted to prevent Einstein from being born. NO
I would not have wanted to prevent any of those on that list from contributing what they have contributed.
I don't see those with extreme Autism any different than those "Born Different". They all need research in helping them live a "normal" life.
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(09-28-2025, 03:37 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Nobody is claiming that autism did not exist until they started using pesticides.
Then why would you say this?
Quote:if they were(trying to stop autism) they would ban pesticides and other chemical poisons in the environment.
you are heavily impying autism is caused by pesticides and/or other chemicals. Otherwise you would have said "if they wanted to lower autism rates" but you didnt,so..........
If you don't know how to properly phrase your posts maybe you just shouldn't.
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(09-28-2025, 03:50 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: Then why would you say this?
you are heavily impying autism is caused by pesticides and/or other chemicals. Otherwise you would have said "if they wanted to lower autism rates" but you didnt,so..........
If you don't know how to properly phrase your posts maybe you just shouldn't.
The scientific paper I posted does claim an association to causing autism.
If you can't interpret my posts properly, then stop trying. It is a futile endeavour for you.
"The only journey is the one within."
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