FDA approved some new device to combat depression

[Maxmars]

I'm sorry you had to suffer through that, I can't imagine not being able to sleep restfully. But are the electrodes attached to the same areas of the brain for sleep issues vs. depression issues? Maybe there is more science to learn about this device.

I really don't know...

Part of the processes to begin was to "map" your brain by asking the patient to perform a series of simple movements and tasks... their sensing tech allows them theoretically to determine "where" within your brain, certain 'connections' can be deduced from the feedback they monitor... again, theoretically allowing them to properly focus the magnetic signal being created like a bubble of force in your brain... which naturally forges a pathway circumventing that 'tried and true brain connection' ... which might allow the brain, to (perhaps inadvertently) creat a better pathway that could be contributing to whatever 'behavioral' problem is the focus of the diagnosis.



I don't mean to imply that it shouldn't work, or even that it doesn't.... just never let a doctor tell me that such is my no-questions-asked "solution."  I understand that to me a solution is being able to sleep "on demand" as normally happens with members of society... it wasn't to me.

To them it's following the treatment flowchart and sending a bill....


I appreciate your sympathy... but this stuff id hardly the stuff abandoning science, or whining about life.

Just another wrinkle in a tapestry I haven't yet finished! 

[quintessentone]

I really don't know...

Part of the processes to begin was to "map" your brain by asking the patient to perform a series of simple movements and tasks... their sensing tech allows them theoretically to determine "where" within your brain, certain 'connections' can be deduced from the feedback they monitor... again, theoretically allowing them to properly focus the magnetic signal being created like a bubble of force in your brain... which naturally forges a pathway circumventing that 'tried and true brain connection' ... which might allow the brain, to (perhaps inadvertently) creat a better pathway that could be contributing to whatever 'behavioral' problem is the focus of the diagnosis.



I don't mean to imply that it shouldn't work, or even that it doesn't.... just never let a doctor tell me that such is my no-questions-asked "solution."  I understand that to me a solution is being able to sleep "on demand" as normally happens with members of society... it wasn't to me.

To them it's following the treatment flowchart and sending a bill....


I appreciate your sympathy... but this stuff id hardly the stuff abandoning science, or whining about life.

Just another wrinkle in a tapestry I haven't yet finished! 

It is interesting to theorize that their mapping of the brain for improved sleep may be the same map for depression, which may be a cause and effect scenario. I could be wrong, just theorizing. How many electrodes did they use on you? That may help us know if the therapy was taking all areas of the brain into account, or just to be sure let's do them all? We can then compare the number of electrodes and placement thereof to this do-it-yourself electric shock therapy device.

[ANNEE]

I understand that to me a solution is being able to sleep "on demand" as normally happens with members of society... it wasn't to me.

I'm with ya.  I have an odd birth defect that wasn't actually found until I was 50.

So -- 50 years of "damage" unabated.  From a young age I have seen a plethora of doctors and had just as many tests.  Told it was in my head, I was doing it for sympathy, etc.

Thank Zeus for muscle relaxants and Ibuprofen.  That doesn't fix anything -- but at least I get some sleep.

[Maxmars]

It is interesting to theorize that their mapping of the brain for improved sleep may be the same map for depression, which may be a cause and effect scenario. I could be wrong, just theorizing. How many electrodes did they use on you? That may help us know if the therapy was taking all areas of the brain into account, or just to be sure let's do them all? We can then compare the number of electrodes and placement thereof to this do-it-yourself electric shock therapy device.

Honestly, I don't know the actual configuration used on me...

The technician's (bless them all) were kind and comfortable with their competence with the gear... a rather large (dentist-style) seat with an apparatus helmet on a mechanical arm that swiveled from the chair frame.

I couldn't discern the inner workings... and since it wasn't more of a sensation than a sparking click sound and a twinge of sensation at the skin... pop pop pop  --- the sessions, once begun, weren't exceptionally long... and if the tech was a talker, it really helped... since I am too.

The period after treatment was calm... I didn't actually "feel" a change in me, but all things being equal, and being that I see this as another hurdle along my path, I wasn't disappointed and rather grateful for no side effects... but I knew what to look for... I have suffered this PTSD and PTSD subsets of symptoms for a relatively LONG time... so... Perhaps I was hopeful that this may have helped for about 2 weeks....

Then ... (please don't ask me to describe my 'episode'... I've had too much time to relive it... I suspect such descriptions are not exactly 'healthy' to convey.  Especially to those whose souls have been scoured by the experience.)

Suffice to say... "No... this tech failed to help me;
...rather than 'it doesn't work.'

Forgive me if I gave a bit of my own baggage in all this.

Hey!  Somebody else talk for a while, eh?

Cheers!