Tulsi Gabbard Calls For Prosecution Of Obama-Era Officials

[putnam6]

I think most honest people operated under the assumption the Russia investigations turning up nothing meant the Steele Dossier was nothing.

The only thing different now would be if someone said they knew it was BS, and still used it as the lynchpin to drive the whole thing.

That said, even if they found that to be the case, I would still bet money nothing will come of it. The Bush admin never had to answer for their borderline manufactured evidence to justify the war in Iraq. That cost thousands of US soldiers their life, many more wounded, and untold suicides after the fact. That's before taking into account civilian deaths because of the spiral in the region, and cost to the taxpayers.

Again, this isn't me downplaying any of those actions, by Obama or Bush... Just pointing out that society has never had an appetite for holding politicians legally accountable for their actions.

 The assumption, aka conspiracy theory? didn't have the added collaborating evidence.

Time will tell if anything happens, which wasn't my point in my post, and was not what you were questioning either.

We haven't had anything definitive on Barry's involvement EVER, it's always been speculated.

Sounds as if James Woods didn't assume anything... 

[FlyersFan]

Is it true? Is it Trump's misdirection or subterfuge?

I have no doubt it's true.
But the Obama people will get away with it.
"They" (POTUS and cabinet level officials) get away with everything.

[CriticalStinker]

 The assumption, aka conspiracy theory? didn't have the added collaborating evidence.

Time will tell if anything happens, which wasn't my point in my post, and was not what you were questioning either.

We haven't had anything definitive on Barry's involvement EVER, it's always been speculated.

Sounds as if James Woods didn't assume anything... 

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Like I said, I think a lot of us had known there was some shenanigans for a while.

But the timing of this is suspect, plus the current admin is saying they manipulated all the Epstein evidence, but they just left this for his admin to find?

I think they're all crooked at this point, playing similar games, the lot of them.

[xuenchen]

Obama had to know EVERY little nit picky detail. He was a pro micromanager and a jealous busy body. 

Remember one of those FBI agents (Strozk or Page?) said Obama had to get every detailed update! 

[putnam6]

I have no doubt it's true.
But the Obama people will get away with it.
"They" (POTUS and cabinet level officials) get away with everything.

I don't doubt it all either...

Its complete BS LOL, they spread FBI-sanctioned BS as fact, and still the stink of a potential Hillary Presidency overshadowed their efforts...

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

It could be a war in Albania, but he has enough real wars to distract people with.  Like with Russia where his ultimatums may stand in the way of said pro-Russia allegations. 

His bipolar back and forth has been kinda show-like. Finally on team Article V, but it took a bit to get his vocal support.  It makes me wonder if its a pony show for Putin's real (reality-adjusted) endgame for a swath of Eastern Ukraine oblasts.

Russia does have a substantial track record with foreign election puppet leaders like Orban, Lukashenko, and the guy Zelensky beat. Major donations to foreign media influence too. They even bought Tim Pool, though he didn't know what he was doing.  And whatever that Tucker Carlson thing was, and they didn't even have to pay for that bit of press.

We'll know more about Trump's use to The Kremlin if the USA negotiates for an offer that cedes; Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, and Zaporizhzhia to Russia, even with their dwindling resources to keep it indefinitely, and even less worldwide recognition of their soveirgnty over it. 

We'll know we are collectively brainwashed by Russia if our negotiated "fair compromise" gives them them a Crimean extension, and fails to recognize the difference between the 2014 civil war/annexation and the current outright invasion.  Downplaying there is a major difference in how the USA should respond is the strongest indicator of Kremlin influence. 

And when Putin says "he prefers Biden" you gotta decide for yourself if you want to believe it, I guess.

I think they try to influence us in every election cycle to different ends regardless..

[Oldcarpy2]

I think most honest people operated under the assumption the Russia investigations turning up nothing meant the Steele Dossier was nothing.

The only thing different now would be if someone said they knew it was BS, and still used it as the lynchpin to drive the whole thing.

That said, even if they found that to be the case, I would still bet money nothing will come of it. The Bush admin never had to answer for their borderline manufactured evidence to justify the war in Iraq. That cost thousands of US soldiers their life, many more wounded, and untold suicides after the fact. That's before taking into account civilian deaths because of the spiral in the region, and cost to the taxpayers.

Again, this isn't me downplaying any of those actions, by Obama or Bush... Just pointing out that society has never had an appetite for holding politicians legally accountable for their actions.

Maybe you forgot Watergate and the Nixon thing?

[xuenchen]

Maybe you forgot Watergate and the Nixon thing?

Oh yeah that setup 

[FlyersFan]

Maybe you forgot Watergate and the Nixon thing?

Compared to what politicians are doing nowadays ... that was nothing.
Pretty sad how far down nearly everyone in politics have slid.

[EXETER]

Who blessed The Crimea giveaway? 
......

Nobody blessed Putin's actions in 2014.  

And nobody "gave" it away. Putin took it with military forces.  

And as a practical matter, the only nation on the planet that could have kicked Russian forces out once they were there was the United States.  

And the only thing we could have done to kick Russia out at the time would have been to invade with a military force large enough to do the job and stay there long enough to get the job done.  

And that would have been a military operation probably as large, dangerous, and costly as Desert Shield/Desert Storm.

And it would have brought US forces directly into battle, killing and being killed by Russian forces.

And it would have been right on the border of Russia, the nation with the largest number of nuclear weapons on the planet.  

Probably a good idea we didn't do that, IMHO.