Trump was FBI informant?

[Vermilion]

Trump wasn’t an informant.
They haven’t even used that term in decades.
Confidential Human Source is the term and those people are …..
Confidential.
If Trump was a CHS, you wouldn’t even know because it’s confidential.
What Trump actually was, was a witness.
A witness.

You can believe a known hack lefty writer(Wolfe), who’s only goal in life is to pimp his salacious books, or you can believe the victims and their lawyers who said Trump was the only person who offered to help them.

[cherokeetroy]

Trump wasn’t an informant.
They haven’t even used that term in decades.
Confidential Human Source is the term and those people are …..
Confidential.
If Trump was a CHS, you wouldn’t even know because it’s confidential.
What Trump actually was, was a witness.
A witness.

You can believe a known hack lefty writer(Wolfe), who’s only goal in life is to pimp his salacious books, or you can believe the victims and their lawyers who said Trump was the only person who offered to help them.

1. You, yourself claimed those girls are whores and grifters, completely unbelievable,  only looking to make money yet, when they exonerate Trump, somehow, they're magically honest and trustworthy. This is coming directly from you

2. Not all thea victims stated Trump was helpful. Some claimed he behaved inappropriately including touching,  fondling, groping, etc...that was already pointed out to you in this very thread backed with links. You chose to ignore it

3. You are deliberately choosing to ignore the lies and Contradictions coming directly from Trump’s own mouth

You can ignore the information if you want to and choose to believe the victims only when they redeem Trump but all you're doing is exposing how completely biased you are

You're doing exactly what liberals do when they ignore the lies and corruption of their own Democrat leaders

You're no different than evil, lying lefties

[Vermilion]

1. You, yourself claimed those girls are whores and grifters, completely unbelievable,  only looking to make money yet, when they exonerate Trump, somehow, they're magically honest and trustworthy. This is coming directly from you

2. Not all thea victims stated Trump was helpful. Some claimed he behaved inappropriately including touching,  fondling, groping, etc...that was already pointed out to you in this very thread backed with links. You chose to ignore it

3. You are deliberately choosing to ignore the lies and Contradictions coming directly from Trump’s own mouth

You can ignore the information if you want to and choose to believe the victims only when they redeem Trump but all you're doing is exposing how completely biased you are

You're doing exactly what liberals do when they ignore the lies and corruption of their own Democrat leaders

You're no different than evil, lying lefties

1. I never called them that. The facts I presented are a crossroads for the ones who say they believe the girls. If you believe the girls, you have to believe it all, even the good things about Trump. If you don’t believe the girls well that goes against #believeallgirls.
So what’s it’s going to be?
Believe the girls and Trump looks good or…
Don’t believe the girls and Trump doesn’t look good but you look bad.

2. The only “girl”, she was 25 at the time, who made up allegations (30 years later LoL) that Trump “fondled” her was Epstein’s own girlfriend model. She is also the only other women to not tell stories of Epstein abusing her. Know who the other was? Ghistlaine Maxwell.

3. My facts come from sources other than Trump. That’s how I’m confident I can believe them. The girls lawyers told those good stories about Trump decades ago when there was no reason to lie. Believable. The girls held that joke of a press conference and also said nice things about Trump. Believable as well, especially in this political climate.

Trump was a witness, not a confidential human source.
Trump is also more innocent than a lot of those girls who pimped their friends out to Epstein and Maxwell for money.
You want scalps? Go after them.

Did the girls name names yet?
Surely they know, right?
Right?!!!!

[cherokeetroy]

1. I never called them that. The facts I presented are a crossroads for the ones who say they believe the girls. If you believe the girls, you have to believe it all, even the good things about Trump. If you don’t believe the girls well that goes against #believeallgirls.
So what’s it’s going to be?
Believe the girls and Trump looks good or…
Don’t believe the girls and Trump doesn’t look good but you look bad.

2. The only “girl”, she was 25 at the time, who made up allegations (30 years later LoL) that Trump “fondled” her was Epstein’s own girlfriend model. She is also the only other women to not tell stories of Epstein abusing her. Know who the other was? Ghistlaine Maxwell.

3. My facts come from sources other than Trump. That’s how I’m confident I can believe them. The girls lawyers told those good stories about Trump decades ago when there was no reason to lie. Believable. The girls held that joke of a press conference and also said nice things about Trump. Believable as well, especially in this political climate.

Trump was a witness, not a confidential human source.
Trump is also more innocent than a lot of those girls who pimped their friends out to Epstein and Maxwell for money.
You want scalps? Go after them.

Did the girls name names yet?
Surely they know, right?
Right?!!!!

These are direct quotes from you about the victims:

"Another “Trump raped me 30 years ago and I didn’t tell anyone but now I want justice for other girls and I swear I’m not an attention whoring opportunist” to add to the list.
Do you find it fascinating at all that none of these accusers ever have even the slightest amount of believability? Some of those very same “victims”, the ones who willing recruited their own friends, are crying foul now too."

"They are free to speak to whatever and whoever they want because the NDA’s say that. Hundreds of victims allegedly so you gotta ask yourselves…..
Why haven’t they named names other than Epstein, Maxwell, Andy and the Frenchman?
Taking your answer to its logical end, it will help you see things for what they are. "

"You listed a few? LoL
You listed Virginia, who admitted she lied about Dershowitz, only after he counter sued her for defamation. Shes lucky he’s a good man or he would have destroyed her in court, but he dropped it because he felt bad for her as a victim."

"Virginia was caught lying about many many things regarding Epstein and other men.
Dershowitz being one example."

"Thousands of “victims”, the majority of who were willing participants.
Maxwell recruited girls who recruited more of their friends than she did.
They were willing to give massages or more for the cash.
Guiffre was only one of many recruiters."

"Florida age of consent then was 17 and the “victims” did most of the recruiting.
Its degenerate yet those are the facts."

"You’re certainly watching the live press conference right now with these so called “survivors” right? Where they been these past 3 decades?
Why aren’t they naming names?
Why did they not come forward sooner.
They would have saved countless other women from being abused and trafficked, right?
I guess you’ll have to do what they suggest and subscribe to their podcasts to get the inside truth."

"Do you not see the carnival through the clowns?
I couldn’t help but notice you’ve ignored today’s press conference of the self seeking grifters who are parading themselves around as victims.
Those are the same girls, many who were 18 at the time, who did the same things Ghislaine is in prison for now.
They willingly pimped out their friends.
Some of who were under 17.
For money.
Hope you enjoy the circus."

"Real life will still be here when you’ve moved on.
Many did that today after that press conference.
The jig is up as they showed their pathetic hand today."

"Did the girls name names yet?
Surely they know, right?
Right?!!!!"




Why do you shamelessly lie, then pretend like you don't

You constantly dodge questions and call other members out for being disingenuous 

You have no credibility

[Vermilion]

These are direct quotes from you about the victims:

"Another “Trump raped me 30 years ago and I didn’t tell anyone but now I want justice for other girls and I swear I’m not an attention whoring opportunist” to add to the list.
Do you find it fascinating at all that none of these accusers ever have even the slightest amount of believability? Some of those very same “victims”, the ones who willing recruited their own friends, are crying foul now too."

"They are free to speak to whatever and whoever they want because the NDA’s say that. Hundreds of victims allegedly so you gotta ask yourselves…..
Why haven’t they named names other than Epstein, Maxwell, Andy and the Frenchman?
Taking your answer to its logical end, it will help you see things for what they are. "

"You listed a few? LoL
You listed Virginia, who admitted she lied about Dershowitz, only after he counter sued her for defamation. Shes lucky he’s a good man or he would have destroyed her in court, but he dropped it because he felt bad for her as a victim."

"Virginia was caught lying about many many things regarding Epstein and other men.
Dershowitz being one example."

"Thousands of “victims”, the majority of who were willing participants.
Maxwell recruited girls who recruited more of their friends than she did.
They were willing to give massages or more for the cash.
Guiffre was only one of many recruiters."

"Florida age of consent then was 17 and the “victims” did most of the recruiting.
Its degenerate yet those are the facts."

"You’re certainly watching the live press conference right now with these so called “survivors” right? Where they been these past 3 decades?
Why aren’t they naming names?
Why did they not come forward sooner.
They would have saved countless other women from being abused and trafficked, right?
I guess you’ll have to do what they suggest and subscribe to their podcasts to get the inside truth."

"Do you not see the carnival through the clowns?
I couldn’t help but notice you’ve ignored today’s press conference of the self seeking grifters who are parading themselves around as victims.
Those are the same girls, many who were 18 at the time, who did the same things Ghislaine is in prison for now.
They willingly pimped out their friends.
Some of who were under 17.
For money.
Hope you enjoy the circus."

"Real life will still be here when you’ve moved on.
Many did that today after that press conference.
The jig is up as they showed their pathetic hand today."

"Did the girls name names yet?
Surely they know, right?
Right?!!!!"




Why do you shamelessly lie, then pretend like you don't

You constantly dodge questions and call other members out for being disingenuous 

You have no credibility

Thank you for collecting all those excellent points I’ve made into one post.
Truly, thank you.
Now that you can see the big picture, care to comment on them specifically?
I’m trying to figure out where your issue is.
The facts I’ve laid out are indisputable.
All of it from the records.
Is your issue with Trump being one of the only good guys?
Is your issue with some of the girls being just as guilty as Maxwell?
Is your issue with some of them being attention whores and grifters?
Is your issue with them not naming names?
It’s almost like you hate the truth.

[cherokeetroy]

Thank you for collecting all those excellent points I’ve made into one post.
Truly, thank you.
Now that you can see the big picture, care to comment on them specifically?
I’m trying to figure out where your issue is.
The facts I’ve laid out are indisputable.
All of it from the records.
Is your issue with Trump being one of the only good guys?
Is your issue with some of the girls being just as guilty as Maxwell?
Is your issue with some of them being attention whores and grifters?
Is your issue with them not naming names?
It’s almost like you hate the truth.

You may want to consider seeking some type of helpful evaluation for yourself

[Vermilion]

You may want to consider seeking some type of helpful evaluation for yourself

Oh I see, your issue is me.
I’m not the topic of this thread but I’m flattered you think so.

It doesn’t seem like you want to address any of the facts I’ve presented for you.

[cherokeetroy]

Oh I see, your issue is me.
I’m not the topic of this thread but I’m flattered you think so.

It doesn’t seem like you want to address any of the facts I’ve presented for you.

My issue isn't with you but the fact you've been outed as a liar and you deny it

You have no credibility

[Vermilion]

My issue isn't with you but the fact you've been outed as a liar and you deny it

You have no credibility

Stop with the projection.
I’ve been polite thus far.
Get on topic or fuck off to another thread.

[cherokeetroy]

Stop with the projection.
I’ve been polite thus far.
Get on topic or fuck off to another thread.

I claimed that you called the victims liars, attention seeking whores and grifters who have no credibility or believability 

You claimed you never called them that and you #believeallgirls

I provided 9 or 10 solid examples of your claim being an outright lie

So will you admit it or are you going to keep denying it as you lash out at me

I'm not going to waste time on a liar