Trump shot?

[KKLoco]

I've been watching this since it happened. The local news doesn't update much on weekends, so I have switched back to MSM... combination of Fox, CNN, and NewsNation in an attempt to find that happy medium where truth resides. Here's my take:

First, the guy was a sharpshooter. I originally said, this guy is either ex-military, law enforcement, or possibly self-trained. Turns out he was 20 years old and too young to be ex-military or law enforcement. That left self-trained, and the fact he was wearing a t-shirt from an online arms dealer sorta verifies the self-trained theory. He was a "gun nut."

Turns out, he was also a loner. Bullied at school. Sound familiar?

He lived with his parents in a blue-collar suburb of Pittsburgh, 20 miles away. Name was Thomas Matthew Crooks. He was registered as a Republican, but I don't think this was really political. I figure he probably registered that way because his folks were Republicans. That happens a lot. But he also sent a $15 donation to a "progressive PAC" in January of 2021. That tells me he wasn't really political.

The gun was an AR-15, .223 caliber (5.56 NATO), a very common round that most AR-15s come in. That's a high-powered .22 and a pretty lethal round. It's perfect for a sniper round as it has a long, flat trajectory and some serious muzzle energy. Many rounds are also full metal jacket and will tumble when they hit bone; the semi-jacketed rounds are also pretty good at mushrooming on impact. I called the round last night well before the gun was identified.

I say he was a sharpshooter because he almost made a deadly hit. His aim was true, even from 130+ yards. That bullet was going to hit Trump dead in the right temple, and that's an immediate kill. Think of JFK... Trump's brains would have been all over that stage. But, just as the trigger was pulled, Trump turned his head to the right and cocked it to the left. Instead of hitting his temple, the bullet flew right past his head and cut his upper right ear. That's a sharpshooter, not some kid who likes to shoot guns. This dude was good!

Once Trump felt/heard the bullet, he put his hand up to his ear, saw the blood, and dropped. The shooter kept firing, hitting at least three other people. One died at the scene; the other two were injured but survived (for now). Secret Service was there almost immediately, forming a human shield until the shooter could be neutralized. Good job by the agents.

Here's where things get wonky: Crooks was seen by guests climbing onto the roof. Those guests alerted Secret Service. One policeman saw the shooter on the roof and confronted him... the shooter pointed the rifle at the cop and the cop left the roof. I heard one witness estimate it was 3 or 4 minutes between climbing the ladder and the shots... that's a fast setup! It shows single-mindedness. There were apparently obstacles on the roof that Crooks hid behind. Now, I would think that if someone mentioned to the Secret Service that they saw an armed man climbing onto a roof, there would e a few things happen almost immediately: snipers trained on the roof to see him, Trump interrupted and shielded, and a fast investigation of that roof. But the guy had time to set up and fire what? 8 rounds I heard? at a pace that allowed that first bullet to be on the money.

Also, why was that roof not being supervised? 130+ yards is not an easy shot, but it is well within possibility for an experienced shooter. Someone should have been watching that roof!

Here's what I think: I think crooks was a loner with a lot of anger. He was approached by someone to kill Trump and assured that the Secret Service was in on the deal. Someone cased out that roof and made sure that security was not monitoring it. Crooks took his father's AR-15, scaled the roof, and fired. Secret Service at the time was trying to figure out how to cover that roof without compromising security (another indication that the security was planned out to keep that roof open). Once thee shots were fired, the snipers took him out.

The plan failed; Trump is alive. But now, get ready for the call to ban firearms. Biden already hinted at that in his first presser after the assassination attempt. I also doubt that whoever concocted this event will try again. It seems we are no longer in a country where elections are for sale to the highest bidder; now, elections are by attrition instead of vote.

God help us all.

TheRedneck

And conveniently, a police officer climbed the ladder and came within feet of the perpetrator of othe incident:

This is when one local officer climbed to the roof and confronted Crooks, who pointed his rifle at the officer. The officer retreated down the ladder as Crooks quickly took a shot toward Trump who was speaking on stage and that's when the U.S. Secret Service counter-snipers shot him, the AP reported.

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https://www.newsweek.com/police-officer-...rt-1925027

Also, check out my post from above. The perp was in a BlackRock commercial a year ago.

[Blaine91555]

One thing I noticed is all the various video clips make it seem like significant time passed before the snipers took him out, but it actually happened very fast. I think a lot of the criticism of the various law enforcement involved is really overblown. I guess it's natural to look for people to blame, but in the end only the shooter is responsible. Whether anyone else was involved is a question mark.

My initial take is that the shooter was working alone and clearly in need of some kind of psychiatric treatment. He's within the age when the first signs of being a sociopath show up. 16 to 25 I think. It's not only possible he worked alone it's likely.

130 yards is nothing with pretty much any hunting rifle with a good scope. To shoot within a quarter at that range is reasonable for a person familiar with their weapon. 300 yards a hand-spread. The choice of using an AR kind of guarantee's he was not experienced beyond that weapon. Any good big-game rifle would have been a far better choice. His choice of weapon I think played a part in his near miss thank God.

I can only pray that clear heads prevail and this is the only incident like this in this election. I heard someone last night mention that 37 candidates were gunned down in Mexico's last elections. We are better than that and Mexico should serve as a good example that using force does not work. It's truly sad that shooter did not get help before he snapped.

[Lysergic]

I'm surprised a sniper team didn't seem him climb up on a roof that had no cover and crawl around for a few minutes with rifle.

idk.

the left has its own qanon now; it was faked. you know cuz movies n shit, probably just shot his ear on purpose lol. X is hilarious atm, people condoning political violence, what a shit world if we just started killing eachother over political opinion / party. when really, the house always wins.




Also funny reading reddit where they are freaking out and that this is the worst possible outcome 



Some of the memes are hilarious.

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Some say it wasn't Crooks it was Maxwell Yearick

idk

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Crooks was featured in a Blackrock youtube video that has since been removed.

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all ive seen so far

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There’s a big fat elephant in the room:

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXrub_IwkcM&t=101s]

Black Rock you say….. Are you fucking kidding me?!?! 

We going down this rabbit hole here? Because I can’t participate on ATS. 

I watched this live as it happened yesterday. Actually tuned in at 5pm (original start time). It didn’t end up starting for an hour later.

I am not lying when I say this, before it started, I looked at the venue and said to myself ‘What the hell! This doesn’t look safe for Trump, at all. Am I going to watch an assassination attempt today?”

BOOM! One hour later IT HAPPENED!

I did not want to be a prophet on this……

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Then there is this. Skip to the 10:50 mark. 

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Ey0qVzG8_vU]

Yes, it’s a religious prophecy. AND it’s dead on, posted 4 months ago today on YouTube. I’m not religious. However, I find it uncanny.

Yeah that's nuts. Are there coincidences in life or? 

I like how the left went full alex jones on sandy hook on this. it's comical.

[StevieRay]

Heh...well, you saw how I got slapped around by the staff over there...for standing up for lawful behavior and order, and standing up AGAINST lawlessness and illegal behavior.  I'm one 'WARNING' away from being banned!  Pretty sad, that.

Lol, same “important” people doing the same dirty work at both sites. How does this get set up ? Our own little internet deep state.

Wouldn’t want DI to get a fresh, honest start ….. or anything. Worm your way in there at all costs, whatever it takes.

Do people have lives outside of these boards ?

[jaded]

@ Blaine & the Redneck

Have been racking my brain to remember back the last time Trump had his rally there if I saw Drones or not? I think I did but it was 4yrs ago. 

Because they shut down the entire airport (it's not huge) Saturday there was no reason to not have drones up for surveillance. This is why people who say SS & Leo's did a great job are so very mistaken. 

The secret service did not get Trump into a vehicle ASAP
His vehicle wasn't covered (tented) as should have been to block line of sight in case of multiple shooters. (contingency)
The original security zone should have been inclusive of the site behind the airport to begin with. 
Altho the company who owns it may have permitted rally parking it still should have had local leo's there even if it didn't. 

The rally 4 yrs ago had 3 checkpoints to verify locals & others. One far out one closer ect. No ones even mentioned if any check points were only at the rally entrances not anywhere else.

[Maxmars]

Yeah, the thinkers behind the faces are already "playing" the game... "What are we going to tell them to think." How much speculation will keep this "in play."

While I do believe that evil exists, as a motive force 'behind the scenes,' we can only speculate right now.

I am surprised by the media packaging and it's unrelenting posture of "innocence" behind the deluge of hatred they purposefully directed and promoted in the political discourse... ahem... "public awareness."  That kind of hatred has dangers, and they hated Trump enough to place him as a target for a troubled kid with a gun.

There is no rationale for doing what he did beyond "I'm gonna change everything."  And counter snipers are a "thing," which most snipers worthy of the title know about.  Doing this kind of thing is an invitation to be killed yourself...

What were failures, or incompetence, or badly directed operational decisions I can't comfortably say.  They live in a world of their own.  Much of what we 'see' is not actually a complete picture.

But someone was not "on the job" in what we have been shown so far.  To get to the point of firing, after publicly strolling in with a longarm and climbing onto a roof requires a touch more than just "luck."

[jaded]

Yeah, the thinkers behind the faces are already "playing" the game... "What are we going to tell them to think." How much speculation will keep this "in play."

While I do believe that evil exists, as a motive force 'behind the scenes,' we can only speculate right now.

I am surprised by the media packaging and it's unrelenting posture of "innocence" behind the deluge of hatred they purposefully directed and promoted in the political discourse... ahem... "public awareness."  That kind of hatred has dangers, and they hated Trump enough to place him as a target for a troubled kid with a gun.

There is no rationale for doing what he did beyond "I'm gonna change everything."  And counter snipers are a "thing," which most snipers worthy of the title know about.  Doing this kind of thing is an invitation to be killed yourself...

What were failures, or incompetence, or badly directed operational decisions I can't comfortably say.  They live in a world of their own.  Much of what we 'see' is not actually a complete picture.

But someone was not "on the job" in what we have been shown so far.  To get to the point of firing, after publicly strolling in with a longarm and climbing onto a roof requires a touch more than just "luck."

Hey Max!
If you think that's suspicious? 
Jordan B Peterson has been asking Democrats "What is too far" in relationship to the democratic agenda.
1 1/2 yrs not one has answered him. Everytime he's on panel with a democrat, in a debate he asks. They do call him names, drag race into the conversation an clam up when he also points out equality of opportunity versus equality of outcome are completely different.

[Lysergic]

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kek

[VulcanWerks]

This entire situation is as sad as the state of our country.

[Maxmars]

Hey Max!
If you think that's suspicious? 
Jordan B Peterson has been asking Democrats "What is too far" in relationship to the democratic agenda.
1 1/2 yrs not one has answered him. Everytime he's on panel with a democrat, in a debate he asks. They do call him names, drag race into the conversation an clam up when he also points out equality of opportunity versus equality of outcome are completely different.

I'll confess that Dr. Peterson's words on this subject were well received by me.  I don't delude myself into actually believing that the "too far" question belongs on just one side of the aisle.  But clearly, we are seeing "too far" in the public landscape.  I don't ever say "It's the Democrats" because I know it's not "just them."  That their PR folks haven't found a way to counter the question is to their loss.  But effectively, it really doesn't matter whether it's one side or the other... somebody is doing something that in no way can be considered "acceptable."  Or shall we refuse to acknowledge the social effect of flooding the public conversation with base hatred for a person... and somehow not expecting that person to suffer real harm from it?

As for the rest, those are windmills that Dr. Peterson is attacking for honorable cause, I'm rooting for him.

Somebody break out the corkboard and colored yarn... it's time to connect 'virtual' dots...