Trump 'authorizing Full Force, if necessary' as military deploys to another US city

[DBCowboy]

Fucking A right.

In Liberal controlled cities, murder is barely considered violent crime anymore.

These hacks and know nothings are just not happy if they don't constantly cry about Trump.

Car theft is no longer a violent crime.

 

[guyfriday]

That's the propaganda they are pushing. Here is another viewpoint.

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxQNFyR9...x=1&t=860s]

A higher percentage of people do not approve of Trump's leadership so far.

people who do not live in these cities are complaining about what they are being told by the media. As I said before go to these cities and talk trash in these areas about antifa then watch what happens. 

If there wasn't any live feeds from CHOP/CHAZ everyone wouldn't even know it happened, hell even now people seem to think it wasn't a big deal. People died because of antifa's actions there. It was a big deal.

And we are seeing that same type of crap take place now around these ICE facilities, and around population centers, not to mention around and near government offices. All while local paid off or worse members of antifa are making sure little to nothing happens to prevent this type of take overs. It's not surprising that the US Government has to step in given that literally nothing is being done about antifa. 

So if people in Ohio don't like it that Trump has ordered troops in to a west coast city in order to regain control, maybe they should come here and see exactly what is going on instead of talking crap about this situation. Most reasonable people are expecting the US Government to step in during times like this, but if nothing happens, if no troops come in, how long do you think peace will last when the average citizen has been forced to take up arms against groups like antifa? 

Federal Officers and military troops will arrest trouble makers, pissed off Americans with no recourse will let the dogs chew on the dead. Let that sink in for a bit...

So complain all you want about what Trump is having to do. Just remember that what he is doing is saving lives of everyone involved.

[putnam6]

For perspective, Portland's homicide rate is #37 
  
Top 100 U.S. Cities by Homicide Rate per 100,000 Residents (Based on 2024 Data)
Comprehensive rankings of the top 100 U.S. cities by per capita homicide rate are not centrally published in a single, up-to-date source for 2024 (the most recent full-year data available as of September 2025).

The FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) program provides raw data for many cities, but it excludes some large ones like Atlanta and New Orleans due to reporting changes, and smaller cities often lack consistent inclusion. I've compiled the following list from multiple reliable sources, including FBI-derived data, municipal reports, and analyses from organizations like the Council on Criminal Justice (CCJ), Wirepoints, and the Major Cities Chiefs Association.

Rates are for 2024 unless noted, normalized per 100,000 residents, and focus on cities with populations over 50,000 for comparability. Where data conflicts slightly (e.g., due to preliminary vs. final counts), I've prioritized the most recent consensus.

 
This list prioritizes cities with the highest rates, drawing from:

• High-rate cities are explicitly ranked in sources like Axios, The Hill, Freedom for All Americans, and World Population Review.
  
• Mid-tier from CCJ's 40-city sample and RIT's 24-city report.
  
• Lower-tier from Wikipedia's partial 2024 UCR table and Wirepoints' 75-city survey.
  

Note: National average in 2024 was ~5 per 100,000. Rates have generally declined 10-20% from 2023 peaks in many cities, but disparities persist, often tied to socioeconomic factors, gun access, and policing.

 
Rank
City, State
Homicide Rate (per 100,000)
Population (approx.)
Notes/Source Highlights
1
Jackson, MS
77.8
145,000
Highest in U.S.; 15x national avg.; FBI data via Axios. 
2
Birmingham, AL
58.8
200,000
11x national avg.; 51% drop in murders YTD 2025; FBI via The Hill. 
3
St. Louis, MO
48.6-69.4
290,000
Varied reports; CCJ: 48.6 (33% drop); Freedom: 69.4; Wirepoints top per capita. 
4
Baltimore, MD
40.9-58.1
570,000
Shelby Co. influence; 18% drop; CCJ & Global Stats. 
5
Detroit, MI
40.4-47.9
630,000
Gang-related; RIT: 40.9; Slaycation: 47.9. 
6
New Orleans, LA
30.0-52.3
370,000
RIT: 53.7 (2023); Global: 52.3; 15% drop; Wikipedia separate. 
7
Baton Rouge, LA
33.5
220,000
Consistent high; World Pop Review. 
8
Memphis, TN
25.5-40.9
620,000
Shelby Co.: 40.9; Axios: 25.5 (30-yr low); USAFacts. 
9
Cleveland, OH
33.7
370,000
FBI UCR via Wikipedia (top 10). 
10
Las Vegas, NV
31.4
650,000
FBI UCR via Wikipedia. 
11
Kansas City, MO
30.2
510,000
FBI UCR via Wikipedia. 
12
Philadelphia, PA
17.3-26.4
1,570,000
Wirepoints: 17.3 (drop from 26.4); CCJ sample. 
13
Milwaukee, WI
24.5
570,000
FBI UCR via Wikipedia. 
14
Chicago, IL
18.3-21.5
2,670,000
Wirepoints: 21.5 (573 murders); Slaycation: 18.3; Cook Co. influence. 
15
Indianapolis, IN
19.7
880,000
Wirepoints #2 among large cities. 
16
Washington, D.C.
17.0-27.3
690,000
Freedom: 17.0; White House: 27.3; 30-yr low violent crime. 
17
Louisville, KY
17.5-21.7
620,000
Freedom: 17.5; The Hill: 21.7; 143 murders. 
18
Oakland, CA
17.1
430,000
Freedom report; reduction from 2023. 
19
Atlanta, GA
14.2-16.0
500,000
2023 rate; 35% drop YTD 2025; Wikipedia separate. 
20
Houston, TX
13.9
2,300,000
Wirepoints; 7% drop. 
21
Pittsburgh, PA
13.8
300,000
Freedom; 54.8% clearance rate. 
22
Chattanooga, TN
13.4
180,000
CCJ: 30% decline to 13.4. 
23
Denver, CO
12.0
710,000
CCJ sample; 45% drop. 
24
Rochester, NY
11.8
210,000
RIT: High among small cities. 
25
Little Rock, AR
11.5
200,000
SafeHome: High violent crime incl. homicide. 
26
Mobile, AL
10.8
180,000
SafeHome 2023; small city high. 
27
Toledo, OH
10.2
270,000
FBI UCR via Wikipedia. 
28
Stockton, CA
9.8
320,000
FBI UCR via Wikipedia. 
29
Nashville, TN
9.5
690,000
CCJ sample. 
30
Cincinnati, OH
9.2
310,000
FBI UCR via Wikipedia. 
31
Minneapolis, MN
9.0
420,000
CCJ: Below pre-pandemic. 
32
Columbus, OH
8.8
910,000
FBI UCR via Wikipedia. 
33
San Antonio, TX
8.5
1,500,000
FBI UCR via Wikipedia. 
34
Dallas, TX
8.3
1,300,000
FBI UCR via Wikipedia. 
35
Los Angeles, CA
6.8
3,820,000
LA Co.; USAFacts. 
36
Phoenix, AZ
8.0
1,650,000
FBI UCR via Wikipedia. 
37
Portland, OR
7.8
650,000
CCJ sample. 
38
Sacramento, CA
7.5
530,000
FBI UCR via Wikipedia. 
39
Miami, FL
7.3
450,000
FBI UCR via Wikipedia. 
40
Boston, MA
3.7-7.0
650,000
RIT low end; CCJ. 
41-50
Various (e.g., Orlando, FL; Jacksonville, FL; Charlotte, NC; Austin, TX; San Diego, CA; Seattle, WA; Fort Worth, TX; San Jose, CA; Oklahoma City, OK; Columbus, GA)
4.5-6.5
300k-1M
Mid-tier from Wikipedia UCR & CCJ; e.g., San Jose: 2.9 low. 
51-75
Various (e.g., Virginia Beach, VA; Raleigh, NC; Omaha, NE; Colorado Springs, CO; El Paso, TX; Mesa, AZ; Wichita, KS; Tulsa, OK; Albuquerque, NM; Fresno, CA)
3.0-5.0
200k-600k
Lower large-city rates; Wirepoints & UCR; e.g., Omaha: ~5.7 (RIT). 
76-100
Various (e.g., Bakersfield, CA; Arlington, TX; Anaheim, CA; Aurora, CO; Honolulu, HI; Riverside, CA; Irvine, CA; Stockton, CA [mid]; Lexington, KY; Corpus Christi, TX)
1.5-3.5
100k-400k
Small/medium cities; Security.org & UCR; many below national avg. 
For ranks 41-100, exact per-city rates vary by source and are generally clustered below 7 per 100,000, with safer suburbs and Sun Belt cities dominating the bottom. Smaller cities like Hinds County, MS (Jackson metro: 49.3) or East St. Louis, IL (~high violent) could rank higher if included, but this focuses on incorporated cities.  Early 2025 data shows continued declines (e.g., 17% YOY per CCJ), but high-rate cities like St. Louis remain 10x the national average.  For raw FBI data, visit crime-data-explorer.fbi.gov.

[ANNEE]

I don’t see a political movement. 

I only see opportunists. 

Remove the politics label.

[ANNEE]

The term "antifa" is short for anti-fascist; it's used both by its adherents and its foes. In general, people who identify as antifa are known not for what they support, but what they oppose: Fascism, nationalism, far-right ideologies, white supremacy, authoritarianism, racism, homophobia and xenophobia.

I don’t see “be destructive”  anywhere in that description. 

Opportunists will latch on to anything to fill their need.

[DBCowboy]

The term "antifa" is short for anti-fascist; it's used both by its adherents and its foes. In general, people who identify as antifa are known not for what they support, but what they oppose: Fascism, nationalism, far-right ideologies, white supremacy, authoritarianism, racism, homophobia and xenophobia.

I don’t see “be destructive”  anywhere in that description. 

Opportunists will latch on to anything to fill their need.

Annee, I'm anti-fascist.

No one I know is pro fascist.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

For perspective, Portland's homicide rate is #37 

Okay..  go with these stats. Screw Wikipedia.

Portland is #37.

Why not Phoenix at 36th?
Indianapolis at #15?
Cleveland at #9?
St. Louis at #3?
New Orleans at #5

Or maybe...

Kansas City, Louisville, Atlanta, Little Rock, Mobile, Nashville, Toledo, Cincinatti, or Columbus?

4 major cities in the VP's home state rank ahead of Portland, and every other city on the "next up" list.

Granted its just homicide list, but you cant use these stats and ignore all the more deserving "blue cities in red states" ALWAYS ahead of the ones being targeted.

And about CA DAs...

WE LEARNED how much they suck pretty quickly after 2020 and as of 2025 San Francisco, Los Angeles, and San Diego all have moderate, independent, or right-leaning DAs.

The urgency assumes CA cities never took care of it democratically tthrough local elections. 

[DBCowboy]

Okay..  go with these stats. Screw Wikipedia.

Portland is #37.

Why not Phoenix at 36th?
Indianapolis at #15?
Cleveland at #9?
St. Louis at #3?
New Orleans at #5

Or maybe...

Kansas City, Louisville, Atlanta, Little Rock, Mobile, Nashville, Toledo, Cincinatti, or Columbus?

4 major cities in the VP's home state rank ahead of Portland, and every other city on the  next up list.

Granted its just homicide list, but you cant use these stats and ignore all the more deserving "blue cities in red states" ALWAYS ahead of the ones being targeted.

And about CA DAs...

WE LEARNED how much they suck pretty quickly after 2020 and as of 2025 San Francisco, Los Angeles, and San Diego all have moderate, independent, or right-leaning DAs.

The urgency assumes CA cities never took care of it democratically tthrough local elections. 

You can put a band aid on a broken leg, but don't expect us to believe that the band aid will fix it.

[ANNEE]

Leftist DA's and leftist cities have decriminalized "violent crime" ie; rapes and robberies are now minor assaults etc.

Anyone who doesn't agree with you -- you consider Left.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Oh... Trying to convince you of anything defines futility, really. You get a different approach entirely. 

You need to convince me cities in my state needs Trump's intervention more than the other cities I have listed, like Indianapolis or Little Rock. 

I have just stated my argument contradicting Trump's call to urgency. I say LA is fine. SF is fine. My thusfar unwaivered opinion. Both are devoting resources and effort and it has been paying off. They've seen reduced crime rates, number of homeless, many categories falling lower than pre-pandemic levels. 

But...

You NEVER have to believe that.  I'd actually consider you skilled at the art of Forum Kung Fu if you could convince (and/or gaslight) me into thinking my favorite state is in any way falling apart from all the liberal incompetence. We spend too damn much sometimes, but...

The divide of opinion is just a chasm too far.