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(11-06-2025, 10:57 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Let’s so pat all the sex offending pedos on the back shall we, and tell them not to worry because some pervert apologists say Giuffre is a liar!

You don’t even know what you’re talking about.   It wasn’t just one person that’s called her out, there’s been many.  …. And who is the pervert apologist you’re incriminating without proof?
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.  
Epstein was a blackmailer. I fancy that even outwith all the underage trafficking stuff he would still have been succesful.

Politicians and influential figures would not want to be seen butt naked having sex with anyone period.
(11-06-2025, 10:45 AM)KrustyKrab Wrote: Virginia was a liar, a pathological one at that apparently.  Lots of inconsistencies in her statements and records.  This has been proven to the point she lost most of her credibility.


(11-06-2025, 10:45 AM)KrustyKrab Wrote: Virginia was a liar, a pathological one at that apparently.  Lots of inconsistencies in her statements and records.  This has been proven to the point she lost most of her credibility.



Virginia Guiffre was a proven liar, grifter and trafficker.

In fact, most of Epstein’s victims were introduced to him through other women, according to the 12 victims I’ve spoken with over the past year and a half, as well as dozens of allegations in court and in the media. Often, victims say, it was the women around Epstein who tried to make them feel comfortable, as if what they were experiencing was normal or harmless.

Rina Oh, describing an incident where she felt "ambushed by two females at the same time" (one of whom was Giuffre) while Epstein watched. Oh's last impression of Giuffre was that she had "turned into one of the girls [she] hated the most," a "massage therapist" who had become complicit in the abuse of other girls.

To point this out is not to excuse any of the men or prestigious institutions—universities, banks, funds—that also helped to protect Epstein, nor is it meant to hold women to a higher standard. But as a woman myself, I have been struck by the sheer number of women around Epstein, and many of the victims I’ve spoken with say they feel especially betrayed by those who violated the unspoken rule that women protect other women, especially minors.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2...men-487157
(11-06-2025, 11:14 AM)midicon Wrote: Epstein was a blackmailer. I fancy that even outwith all the underage trafficking stuff he would still have been succesful.

Politicians and influential figures would not want to be seen butt naked having sex with anyone period.



There is zero evidence Epstein blackmailed anybody.
(11-06-2025, 11:17 AM)Vermilion Wrote: There is zero evidence Epstein blackmailed anybody.

Fair enough, that was just my opinion.
(11-06-2025, 11:19 AM)midicon Wrote: Fair enough, that was just my opinion.


Very good, thanks for clarifying.
I used to have a similar opinion fwiw.
(11-06-2025, 11:14 AM)Vermilion Wrote: Virginia Guiffre was a proven liar, grifter and trafficker.

In fact, most of Epstein’s victims were introduced to him through other women, according to the 12 victims I’ve spoken with over the past year and a half, as well as dozens of allegations in court and in the media. Often, victims say, it was the women around Epstein who tried to make them feel comfortable, as if what they were experiencing was normal or harmless.

Rina Oh, describing an incident where she felt "ambushed by two females at the same time" (one of whom was Giuffre) while Epstein watched. Oh's last impression of Giuffre was that she had "turned into one of the girls [she] hated the most," a "massage therapist" who had become complicit in the abuse of other girls.

To point this out is not to excuse any of the men or prestigious institutions—universities, banks, funds—that also helped to protect Epstein, nor is it meant to hold women to a higher standard. But as a woman myself, I have been struck by the sheer number of women around Epstein, and many of the victims I’ve spoken with say they feel especially betrayed by those who violated the unspoken rule that women protect other women, especially minors.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2...men-487157

I just watched the Epstein documentary recently and a lot of what you’re saying was brought up in it.   Many of the girls including Virginia were very complicit in the whole operation, ever bit as guilty as Max was.
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.  
(11-06-2025, 11:17 AM)Vermilion Wrote: There is zero evidence Epstein blackmailed anybody.



LOL!

I wonder why?.....
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(11-06-2025, 11:25 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: LOL!

I wonder why?.....



Shitty lawyers would.
They ignore evidence.
That’s what makes them shitty.
(11-06-2025, 11:08 AM)KrustyKrab Wrote: You don’t even know what you’re talking about.   It wasn’t just one person that’s called her out, there’s been many.  …. And who is the pervert apologist you’re incriminating without proof?

And you do!?!?   Lol Lol Lol

 Many also claimed the Weinstein accusers were all just making it up, how did that go???



 
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