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08-07-2025, 01:50 PM
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(08-07-2025, 05:38 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I've seen a few comments now from members saying 'to those on left bla bla bla'
You all still seem caught on the party politics line, and not the fact that Trump has done everything to try to make this go away (including calling MAGA dumb) after claiming he'd release the Epstein files to win votes.
He had a proven 15 year friendship with Epstein (but later said he hardly knew the guy?), regularly used the Lolita express, made countless predatory comments about young girls, dozens of testimonies about his lewd and nasty behaviour with young girls and women, it was proven in court he was a rapist. He has now moved Maxwell to a low security prison, in his attempt at a slow motion pardon.
If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck!
Or how about Occams Razor?
The simplest explanation is usually preferred
And now this??
https://globalnews.ca/news/11320300/didd...mp-pardon/
Members who continue pushing division through 'left vs right' rhetoric seem unaware that Trump lost a huge amount of support from his own base over this issue
The only ones left who are squarely in his corner are his staunchest, most diehard loyalists
They'll protect and defend Trump no matter what he does or says
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(08-07-2025, 01:50 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: ...
They'll protect and defend Trump no matter what he does or says
Just like the reverse situation with the last administration...
Are we learning media's tricks yet?
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(08-07-2025, 01:42 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: ...
With that being said, I wish Trump would come out as "Pro-Breathing".

I'm ashamed to admit I'm missing the joke...
but I don't want to destroy the joke with an obvious explanation...
Soo...
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(08-07-2025, 01:59 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Just like the reverse situation with the last administration...
Are we learning media's tricks yet?
Exactly
Opposite sides of the same coin
Party politics is a religion -- starts with the letter "C"
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(08-07-2025, 01:42 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: No one on the left will ever believe anything that comes from the Trump Administration. They will always support the opposite.
With that being said, I wish Trump would come out as "Pro-Breathing".

That doesn’t seem too unique. Partisans typically don’t trust opposition. Independents are often skeptical of who’s in power, no matter their side.
On this issue though, Trump didn’t do himself any favors by changing the narrative in such short timeframes.
Many in his admin have been pushing for the release of files for years. There was phase one, which was mostly redacted, and offered very little that wasn’t already out there. Phase 2 and beyond never came. They said Epstein killed himself and said they’d offer video proof, except the camera wasn’t even pointed at his cell, or even had it in view. It was also missing a few minutes. Then Bondi had a memo that said there was nothing else available to release, no more files, an no one else complicit in trafficking. Maxwell had only trafficked to one person in their narrative, and Acosta gave blanket immunity under the sweetheart deal to everyone else involved (I guess only Maxwell?)… but just didn’t call her by name.
Now there are more files, but it’s all a democrat hoax. One that they never talked about or leaked.
It seems the only people who trust him on this matter are loyalists. How could anyone else?
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08-07-2025, 02:41 PM
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... and let us not forget an unusual element within this discussion...
since we tend to think "extortion"...
where is the "extortion material now?"
Is it in evidence? Will there be a "chain of custody" protection on it? Will it be subject to prosecutorial analysis? Will the authorities establish a "report?" Who will "edit" it? The party?
There is the proof that "Republican/Democrat" divide is a concocted illusion when it comes to protecting their boss' asses... (think "oaths.")
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(08-07-2025, 02:41 PM)Maxmars Wrote: ... and let us not forget an unusual element within this discussion...
since we tend to think "extortion"...
where is the "extortion material now?"
Is it in evidence? Will there be a "chain of custody" protection on it? Will it be subject to prosecutorial analysis? Will the authorities establish a "report?" Who will "edit" it? The party?
There is the proof that "Republican/Democrat" divide is a concocted illusion when it comes to protecting their boss' asses... (think "oaths.")
It seems like the American people are in a quandary when the accused are also the gatekeepers of incriminating evidence
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"The Biden administration had the files for 4 years, why didn't they release them?"...
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(08-07-2025, 04:09 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: "The Biden administration had the files for 4 years, why didn't they release them?"...
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Thanks for laying out one of the many prevailing 'theories' that we can only infer.
I kind of doubt Mossad would "reveal" such a relationship...
And even without the notional addition... the connection is still there.
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08-07-2025, 05:16 PM
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(08-07-2025, 04:09 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: "The Biden administration had the files for 4 years, why didn't they release them?"...
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Well, thats an interesting tidbit...
NGL is not a fan of 2 of Uncle Sam's closest allies being that close
Quote:Yes, Samuel Pisar was Antony Blinken's stepfather and served as a longtime lawyer and confidant of Robert Maxwell. Pisar, a renowned international lawyer and Holocaust survivor, was married to Blinken's mother, Judith, and was a close associate of Maxwell, the British media mogul and alleged Mossad agent. Pisar was reportedly one of the last people to speak to Maxwell before his mysterious death in 1991.
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