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Trump and Epstein were great buddies
(07-29-2025, 11:08 PM)AlroyFarms Wrote: What poor Trump? He can fry too if he's guilty. 

None of you were clamoring to learn the truth about Clinton or Prince Andrew or Celebrity Du Jour.

Some of you are only salivating over the thought of 'We got Trump now!' and that has always been the cheerlead. 

This is wayyyy bigger than Trump. I notice the last administration had these files and were silent as monks.

We already know about Andrew, and yes we we want the truth. But it would seem Trump is no better than the democrats ..right?
(07-30-2025, 05:39 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Things are only getting worse for Donald....

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2673782213/


It proves he knew her? 
That law professor is another genius. 
Where do they find these people, seriously.

”At the age of 14, Giuffre reunited with her father and returned to live with him. Her father worked as a maintenance manager at the Mar-a-Lago property owned by Donald Trump, and also helped Giuffre obtain a job there.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre
(07-30-2025, 04:42 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I feel your hero worshiping is blinding you to the facts.
Lots of evidence has shown Trump "partied" with lots of under-age girls, whilst in the company of Epstein. also his call-ins to the Howard Stern Show are very telling. Many of Trumps pageants were for up and coming models of the younger age (14 to 16). Most may be circumstantial evidence, but people are found guilty on less.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...92328.html


“Lots of evidence has shown Trump "partied" with lots of under-age girls, whilst in the company of Epstein.”

Well you’ll have no problem sharing some of that evidence with us then.
Please proceed.
(07-30-2025, 08:50 AM)Vermilion Wrote: “Lots of evidence has shown Trump "partied" with lots of under-age girls, whilst in the company of Epstein.”

Well you’ll have no problem sharing some of that evidence with us then.
Please proceed.
This should be good! I await the flood of circumstantial evidence that warrants further investigation.
Would you agree? Cause you do believe in justice correct? If there is even a chance that your defense is protecting child abusers, does that bother you?
"I hate to break this to ya, but if you always took 86ing as terminate then you didn't pay attention in AIT.
Remove does not at all mean kill bro. To kill creates a entire situation on it own and is just simply not a very cool thing to do."
           Me
(07-30-2025, 08:50 AM)Vermilion Wrote: “Lots of evidence has shown Trump "partied" with lots of under-age girls, whilst in the company of Epstein.”

Well you’ll have no problem sharing some of that evidence with us then.
Please proceed.
Don't forget most of his pageants were for young girls, not women.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/20...ith-trump/
Quote:1980s
Trump and Epstein met around the time Trump bought Mar-a-Lago in 1985, when Epstein was also living in Palm Beach, according to Trump, who told New York magazine in 2002 he had known Epstein for “15 years,” calling him a “terrific guy,” and adding “it is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

1992
At a “calendar girl” party at Mar-a-Lago where Trump invited just two other guests, Florida businessman George Houraney and Epstein, Houraney’s girlfriend at the time, Jill Harth, said Trump forcibly kissed and fondled her, restrained her from leaving a bedroom and alleged Trump crawled into bed with another 22-year-old woman at the party in a 1997 lawsuit Trump settled the lawsuit with Harth (he has denied her allegations), The New York Times reported.

2010
Resurfaced video, posted to social media by the progressive outlet MeidasTouch, showed Epstein confirming he socialized with Trump and declining to answer when asked if he has ever socialized with Trump “in the presence of females under the age of 18.”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/as...p-recapped
Quote: 
  • 6 women have accused Donald Trump of various forms of sexual assault, including one accusation of rape and another, in which the accuser has not used the word “rape” but whose description meets the legal definition of rape. This figure includes standing accusations from both before and after the release of the Access Hollywood tape on October 7, 2016.
  • Four other women have publicly said Mr. Trump walked in on them and other pageant contestants while they were undressing. Buzzfeed reports another three women have confirmed the pageant stories but did not want their names used.
  • The alleged incidents range from the early 1980s to 2013.
  • “Jane Doe” aka “Katie Johnson” – 1994. Lawsuit filed June 2016, refiled October 2016 as reported by Buzzfeed and others, then dropped in November 2016.
    Jane Doe is an unnamed plaintiff, who has also gone by “Katie Johnson” in legal papers. She claims she was repeatedly raped by Trump and Jeffery Epstein at Epstein’s New York City apartment in 1994, when she was 13 years old. A witness, also given a pseudonym — “Tiffany Doe” — said she recruited “Jane Doe” and others. Doe, using the name “Johnson,” gave an interview to the Daily Mail in which she said she did not know who Trump was at the time of the alleged attack but identified him later when she saw him on television. It is not known why she withdrew the lawsuit. She has not spoken publicly or withdrawn her rape allegation since then.
  • PAGEANT CONTESTANTS ALLEGING TRUMP WALKED IN WHILE THEY WERE DRESSING
    Mariah Billado – 1997 Miss Vermont Teen. Story in Buzzfeed on October 12, 2016.
    Tasha Dixon – 2001 Miss Arizona. Story in CBSLA on October 11, 2016.
    Victoria Hughes – 1997 Miss New Mexico Teen. Story in Buzzfeed on October 13, 2016.
    Bridget Sullivan – 2000 Miss New Hampshire. Story in Buzzfeed May 18, 2016.
    Buzzfeed on October 12, 2016 reported that three other anonymous sources from 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant confirmed Billado and Hughes’ story.

How about his weird interactions and comments about his own daughter??
https://www.ibtimes.com/12-times-donald-...ka-3068093
 
Quote:1. When Ivanka was a 16-year-old hosting the Miss Teen USA pageant, he said “Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?”
5. That time when he told the women on The View, in 2006, that if Ivanka wasn’t his daughter, he’d be dating her. 
6. In a “60 Minutes” interview with Stormy Daniels, the adult actress mentioned that Trump tried to get into bed with her initially by calling her “beautiful and smart just like his daughter Ivanka.” 
7. In an interview with Wendy Williams, he was asked what his and Ivanka’s favorite things are. Of course, Ivanka says “real estate and golf” before her dad has an incredibly cringe-worthy moment and says “I was going to say s*x but I can’t relate that to her”
10. Once he asked the question if it was wrong to be more attracted to your daughter than your wife. Apparently, this line was written in a column by Richard Cohen, but was erased before publication. It was a direct quote, and even worse, Ivanka was just 13 years old when he said it. 


Michael Cohens comments...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...mp-15.html
Quote:
  • Michael Cohen's daughter has recounted a series of ‘creepy’ comments she says Donald Trump made about her when she was aged 15 
  • Samantha referenced allegations made in her father's book, Disloyal: A Memoir
  • Trump allegedly whistled at her as she was playing tennis in 2012, remarking to Cohen, 'what a piece of a**. I would love some of that'
  • After Cohen told Trump that she was his daughter, he allegedly replied ‘when did she get so hot?’, and then beckoned her over to come kiss him on the cheek
  • Samantha, now 24, said the encounter gave her the impression that Trump was interested in ‘younger women'

How about Epstein taking the 5th when asked about his Trumps interactions with underage girls??


And there's plenty more out there, like Wolff's taped interviews with Epstein, pictures he claims to have seen of Trump with Naked young girls, and 'stains' on his trousers.

Doesn't it also make you wonder why Trump also had a good relationship with Bill Clinton in the 90s who was also friends with Epstein around the same time, with both using the 'Lolita' express around the same time? 
Like I said, most maybe be circumstantial but it doesn't put Trump in a good light.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
Breaking: "During remarks on the Senate floor Wednesday, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) spoke about Senate Democrats on the Homeland Security Committee invoking the Rule of Five law to compel the Department of Justice to release the Epstein Files."


"The only journey is the one within."
(07-30-2025, 10:37 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Don't forget most of his pageants were for young girls, not women.
[Video: https://youtu.be/xIvFHFboWEU?si=uMEKdjzdll-F5QEE]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/20...ith-trump/

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/as...p-recapped

How about his weird interactions and comments about his own daughter??
https://www.ibtimes.com/12-times-donald-...ka-3068093
 

Michael Cohens comments...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...mp-15.html

How about Epstein taking the 5th when asked about his Trumps interactions with underage girls??
[Video: https://youtu.be/YmrTZi_Ia28?si=CPFMs8c019Hjxcue]
And there's plenty more out there, like Wolff's taped interviews with Epstein, pictures he claims to have seen of Trump with Naked young girls, and 'stains' on his trousers.


So your “Lots of evidence has shown Trump "partied" with lots of under-age girls, whilst in the company of Epstein.” consists of…..

He owned pageants.
He has a hot daughter.
Allegations of weird interactions consisting of zero actual evidence.
The stories of a known liar (Cohen) 
And the coup de grace, “pictures he claims to have seen of Trump with Naked young girls”.

That is a whole bunch of nothing. LoL
Please try again, this is getting more entertaining.
(07-30-2025, 11:25 AM)Vermilion Wrote: So your “Lots of evidence has shown Trump "partied" with lots of under-age girls, whilst in the company of Epstein.” consists of…..

He owned pageants.
He has a hot daughter.
Allegations of weird interactions consisting of zero actual evidence.
The stories of a known liar (Cohen) 
And the coup de grace, “pictures he claims to have seen of Trump with Naked young girls”.

That is a whole bunch of nothing. LoL
Please try again, this is getting more entertaining.


Yes, your (mis) descriptions are indeed a whole lot of nothing.  

But actual evidence was posted.

Do you remember all the outrage on ATS about Biden showering with his daughter, hair sniffing and so on?

Seems like hypocrisy to me.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
@Vermilion

And yet they said THIS was totes normal behavior, he's just a good old grandpa with a heart of gold! 

[Image: biden5.jpg]


But Trrrrruhhhhuuuummmpppppp! Bleh! Ew! Ick! Cheetos! 


I can't even with the double standards of blind party loyalty and irrational hatred anymore. The propaganda machine has worked.
(07-30-2025, 11:25 AM)Vermilion Wrote: So your “Lots of evidence has shown Trump "partied" with lots of under-age girls, whilst in the company of Epstein.” consists of…..

He owned pageants.
He has a hot daughter.
Allegations of weird interactions consisting of zero actual evidence.
The stories of a known liar (Cohen) 
And the coup de grace, “pictures he claims to have seen of Trump with Naked young girls”.

That is a whole bunch of nothing. LoL
Please try again, this is getting more entertaining.

So you want to dismiss the actual evidence of the 7 young pageant girls and dismiss Florida businessman George Houraney, who talked about the weird party Trump threw for him and Epstein with under age girls? So you want to dismiss the weird sexualized comments he made about his own daughter? You want to dismiss the fact that Epstein himself took the 5th when asked about his and Trump interactions with underage girls? 

Wolff has hours of Epstein recordings are they all lies too? It's Wolff who claimed to have seen the pics. 
It was Cohens daughter who made comments as well as comments from Cohen himself.
At least get that right.

It's enablers like yourself who give these sexual predators a pass to carry on with their twisted behaviour.
There's more out there but obviously you're not interested in learning actual facts, instead giving 'ya buddy Trump the thumbs up.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper



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