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(07-25-2025, 02:34 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: That’s modern politics.
The cases are for optics, not results.
Trump today noted Obama is likely protected by presidential immunity. When the left did the Russia investigation, and now that we’re doing counter Russia investigation, the end goal often may not be results of a case… But driving a narrative to the base and public. By the time it’s revealed nothing will come of it, doesn’t matter, if served its purpose.
I was just speculating based on what someone else had brought up.
Currently my top guess is that this entire spectacle is nothing more than the DNI, FBI, and DOJ directors competing for the Sean Spicer award.
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(07-25-2025, 01:14 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: That would make for an amazing turn of events, but why didn't the democrats go after Trump for that?
Instead, they made a half-assed attempt to prosecute Trump as a smear campaign, with zero chance of getting anything serious to trial.
The lawfare wasn’t half assed.
Lefties spit on the truth, broke precedent and crapped all over the constitution just to stay in power and “get Trump”.
The gullible sheep were all in.
The fight continues as you may have noticed.
The compromised judges going all in with the continued lawfare.
The only thing stopping them is the Supremes.
Luckily the majority of them aren’t complete partisan morons. (DEI Jackson, fragile Sotomayer)
The gullible sheep now think Maxwell is their ally, until they’re told she’s not.
20 years of enabling a pedo.
She has zero credibility in any court, even DC.
CR is correct.
Optics.
There is no client list of people who have credible evidence against them.
Meanwhile, America is undergoing fundamental changes for the better.
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(07-25-2025, 07:20 PM)Vermilion Wrote: The lawfare wasn’t half assed.
Lefties spit on the truth, broke precedent and crapped all over the constitution just to stay in power and “get Trump”.
The gullible sheep were all in.
The fight continues as you may have noticed.
The compromised judges going all in with the continued lawfare.
The only thing stopping them is the Supremes.
Luckily the majority of them aren’t complete partisan morons. (DEI Jackson, fragile Sotomayer)
The gullible sheep now think Maxwell is their ally, until they’re told she’s not.
20 years of enabling a pedo.
She has zero credibility in any court, even DC.
CR is correct.
Optics.
There is no client list of people who have credible evidence against them.
Meanwhile, America is undergoing fundamental changes for the better.
Sounds like you could start a new thread with all that.
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FWIW, another interesting take
The SCIF
@TheIntelSCIF
Quote:TRUMP is in the Epstein files,
and it proves what we knew all along.
Trump was NEVER on Epstein's island.
Jeffery Epstein owned a total of 5 aircraft and bought Little St. James Island in 1998. Trump's last trip on one of Epstein's jets before he permanently cut ties with him and banned him from Mar-a-Lago was in 1997. One full year before Epstein even owned the island.
Epstein's own flight logs, brother, and pilot prove that out of the 7 total trips on Epstein's jets, Trump never flew on the Lolita Express and were all from Mar-a-Lago to NY/NJ and Washington D.C. and the only people who were ever on the plane were Trump's own family, Epstein, and his brother. Epstein's own lawyer personally asked Epstein if he had any dirt on Trump, and he said no.
Julian Assange was asked if he had dirt on Trump, "He said no, because there isn't any." Trump was the one who originally told the FBI about Epstein and the only one who helped prosecutors convict Epstein in 2008.
Every single other person asked, refused. Ask yourself why? Trump went after and had Epstein arrested under federal sex trafficking charges. Epstein cell mate, in an interview, said that he asked Epstein if he had dirt on him, and he said no. All the victims in the Epstein files that were released held NO incriminating evidence on Trump whatsoever and every victim testified that they NEVER saw Trump at any of the locations with women or children and no abuse ever occurred and even supported him for president.
Ask yourself why Biden never mentioned Epstein or the files, and most importantly, release them? No Democrat has even mentioned Epstein for the past decade until now. Both Trump and AG Pam Bondi have now both asked judges and demand that all Epstein files be unsealed and released along with the Senate Republican's attempt to pass the resolution yesterday, on 7/24/25 and Senate Democrats OBJECTED the resolution to release the files, again, with Democrat Obama appointed judges also denying the request to release the files.
Trump is clean, and people can't accept that. They also never cared or talked about the Epstein files or anything until the WSJ and mainstream media started to push lies and use slick wording by saying
Trump is "in the files," which everyone already knows, and is proven to have not done anything illegal that has to do with Epstein, the victims, or any children. Period.
It's just a poor political ploy to others and the Democrats. They never cared about the victims, children being trafficked, the 450,000 trafficked missing minors from the Biden/Harris administration from the Southern border, or Epstein and the files in general, and keep passing laws to reduce penalties when people are caught for sexually abusing them. These people are sick, and they never cared. They're grooming children and pushing for just the opposite, and it must be shut down, and that is the exact goal of the Trump administration. Shut down the woke radical left, their deep state globalist cabal, their child trafficking and abusing ideologies, and save the children. This is not a game, but it is played like one.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart
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(07-25-2025, 07:20 PM)Vermilion Wrote: The lawfare wasn’t half assed.
Lefties spit on the truth, broke precedent and crapped all over the constitution just to stay in power and “get Trump”.
The gullible sheep were all in.
Yet nothing will be done about it.
Both sides like abusing power and gaming the system. They’re not going to try and go after one another, or prevent future administrations because that would stop them from being able to do it too.
You could say you like what Trump is doing, but he’s certainly done executive over reach as much as the rest.
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(07-25-2025, 08:08 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Yet nothing will be done about it.
Both sides like abusing power and gaming the system. They’re not going to try and go after one another, or prevent future administrations because that would stop them from being able to do it too.
You could say you like what Trump is doing, but he’s certainly done executive over reach as much as the rest.
If you haven’t noticed, that’s what Obama Russiagate is all about.
This Epstein thing is a distraction and you know it.
Its kind of silly when you see that the only things the left has anymore is the judge lawfare and Epstein.
Its like bringing a knife to a gunfight really.
Desperate.
I’m not quite as black pilled as you yet so I see the true progress so far.
Its only been six months and we have 3 1/2 years left to see real positive change.
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07-25-2025, 08:27 PM
This post was last modified: 07-25-2025, 08:43 PM by cherokeetroy. 
Apparently, Maxwell needs immunity over a Hoax and a list that doesn't exist
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(07-25-2025, 08:24 PM)Vermilion Wrote: If you haven’t noticed, that’s what Obama Russiagate is all about.
This Epstein thing is a distraction and you know it.
Its kind of silly when you see that the only things the left has anymore is the judge lawfare and Epstein.
Its like bringing a knife to a gunfight really.
Desperate.
I’m not quite as black pilled as you yet so I see the true progress so far.
It’s only been six months and we have 3 1/2 years left to see real positive change.
Judges blocking executive over reach isn’t lawfare. Russiagate was.
But if we’re going to say lawfare is one way, why hasn’t anyone been charged for using signal? That’s a private communication platform that doesn’t adhere to record keeping. How is that different than email?
If Russiagate was as serious as some on the right are saying, why is literally no one going to be charged?
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(07-25-2025, 08:27 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Apparently, Maxwell needs immunity over a Hoax and a list that doesn't exist
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...rome~2.jpg]
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“The department offered Ms. Maxwell conditional immunity to discuss the case, but the protection did not apply if she lied in her interviews.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/25/us/po...ardon.html
Anybody with an expensive lawyer would have that guarantee.
She lied, just like she did in her trial.
Who wouldn’t in her position?
If she had anything substantive, she would have spilled it long ago when she had a sliver of credibility, yet she did not.
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