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(07-19-2025, 12:44 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: No.  He promised to release this and is now backpedaling, obfuscating and deflecting.

Even some of his MAGA base aren't buying this.

To the tune of Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Jack Posobiec, Mike Cernovich, Laura Loomer, and Charlie Kirk.

And those are just the ones in the limelight.

Everybody wants to see this information.

Even his own people.

And if he's nothing to hide, then why refuse to release the information, then lie, then decide to release some of it redacted?

I mean, you're in this game mate.

Is that what innocent people do?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(07-19-2025, 01:18 PM)Vermilion Wrote: They released phase one.
There’s no client list.
Trump asked Bondi to ask the courts to release more info.
You get what you get and you don’t get upset.

Also, you should pay more attention to the Supreme Court wins Bondi and her team have been racking up.


How do you know there isn't?  Pam Bondi said it was on her desk.

The mental gymnastics are hilarious to watch!
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(07-19-2025, 01:27 PM)andy06shake Wrote: To the tune of Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Jack Posobiec, Mike Cernovich, Laura Loomer, and Charlie Kirk.

And those are just the ones in the limelight.

Everybody wants to see this information.

Even his own people.

And if he's nothing to hide, then why refuse to release the information, then lie, then decide to release some of it redacted?

I mean, you're in this game mate.

Is that what innocent people do?


Na, Charlie Kirk has flipped his position and the mental gymnastics are spectacular.

There have been a number of tech bros loyal to Musk and Vance who have flipped on Trump and I dont think anyone is shocked about  that.

Im not expecting too much over the weekend, but international voices will be heard next week IIMHO.
I was not here.
(07-19-2025, 02:22 PM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: Na, Charlie Kirk has flipped his position and the mental gymnastics are spectacular.

There have been a number of tech bros loyal to Musk and Vance who have flipped on Trump and I dont think anyone is shocked about  that.

Im not expecting too much over the weekend, but international voices will be heard next week IIMHO.
That's right, he's chosen to stick his head in the proverbial sand and toe the line.
 
But the sheer turnaround in under 72 hours speaks volumes.
 
This jinn isn’t going back in the bottle anytime soon.

And suggesting there is nothing to see...................

Look how that's working out thus far.  Saint2
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."



I wonder if Les Wexner is on the list?

After all, Jeffrey held his purse strings for a while.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
No one person can "rise" to rule an empire of fresh new prostitutes... for elite consumption only.
That person needs "help" and "protection" to provide the victims to the obviously cloistered clientele.
Who possibly could "help" such a global provider of "goods and services?"

... Now you know why they are like children with their hands caught in the cookie jar...

One way or another...

Most of these people... their media friends, and people who it "pays off" to keep invisible...
It's not like they didn't know...

Just like ALL of Hollywood knew what H. Weinstein was doing ... while while they partied their asses off.

It kind of pains me that when we used to talk about this stuff years ago, some were vilified as part of a lunatic fringe....

... and here we are....

Pretending we all should be surprised... (because... they "report" it with wide-eyed wonder...)

And then proceed to glorify schadenfreude in 50% of the population...

The bias in the reporting is still there....

A question for the professional journalists out there:

If you won't publicly recognize this as an ongoing criminal enterprise... you won't "follow up" will you?

If you fixate on the political floor show... if you stop at at Trump to grind your teeth, does that mean all the
one's you don't hate have a "pass?"  (It would explain a lot.)
I think even if there is a list, Trump is just the tip of the iceberg.  Not saying he’s not associated with Epstein’s shenanigans but most likely there’s bigger fish than Trump.

If this list does indeed exist, there would be be a global meltdown.  You can bet it’s not a list with just one name.
Now everything else in their narrative is apocryphal.

An old trick that still works...
(07-20-2025, 04:18 PM)theshadowknows Wrote: The following is the entire release: Those were all already public. They really didn't release anything.


Not trying to defend that dumb rollout PR stunt here so I’ll add some facts for context….

It was labeled Phase 1 so more files are to be released.
Bondi doesn’t know exactly what files you or anybody else have previously seen so it seems you’ll have to continue to be disappointed until at least the next release.
Note: some people will never be pleased YMMV
There was a significant new release in phase one….
 “The only newly-released document in "phase one," which received little public attention, was a three-page catalog of evidence that appears to be an accounting of evidence seized during the searches of Epstein's properties in New York and the U.S. Virgin Islands after his arrest in 2019, and a search of his Palm Beach mansion a dozen years earlier.
That little-noticed index offers a roadmap to the remaining trove of records that President Donald Trump's administration has declined to release, including logs of who potentially visited Epstein's private island and the records of a wiretap of Maxwell's phone.”
https://abcnews.go.com/US/unreleased-eps...=123851356
Trump was a populist problem, and they were always after him and now they are putting the knife in. We are getting a range of information saying he is sick, making poor decisions then the deputy will take over if he hasn't already. Trump and Zelensky will be off the stage.
   Russia will finish off Ukraine before all the promised hardware arrives, and then it will all go to Israel. We are watching the greater Israel project unfold before our eyes , we might as well enjoy it because we are paying for it. Quite a few of the old regime will be thrown to the wolves as the pedo accusations and indictments' progress. It is a grand deception Unfolding the public are thrown a few bones to chew on .While the greater plan unfolds. Europe will keep Russia busy ,as Israel tries to Eat up the middle east. History is being played out and we had better pay attention.



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