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(07-17-2025, 09:14 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: So, you are saying that, if you have a wet dream, you are raped by your brain/subconscious? In essence saying that you raped yourself......how does that work?


People are not alone, nor are they at the top of the food chain.
So Trump has ordered DOJ and FBI to release all grand jury and other files with regards to the Epstein case as once again instead of Russia Russia Russia it is now Epstein Epstein Epstein pushed by the liars of the deep state and the fake news. 
Lawsuits incoming and I for one hope he wins due to the truth of the evidence. 

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"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(07-18-2025, 01:13 AM)Sky727 Wrote: So Trump has ordered DOJ and FBI to release all grand jury and other files with regards to the Epstein case as once again instead of Russia Russia Russia it is now Epstein Epstein Epstein pushed by the liars of the deep state and the fake news. 
Lawsuits incoming and I for one hope he wins due to the truth of the evidence. 
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Actually, that's not exactly what happened.  Here's what Trump ordered:

"I have asked Attorney General Pam Bondi to produce any and all pertinent Grand Jury testimony, subject to Court approval,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post Thursday night.

Grand Jury testimony is the property of the court in which it was presented, which is under the authority of the Judicial Branch, NOT the Executive Branch.  So Trump asked AG Bondi to ask the Judicial Branch for permission to release testimony that the DOJ already has and presented to a Grand Jury.  So, a few things to recognize about this action:

1. As I understand it, some of the Grand Jury testimony is still relevant to ongoing investigations and/or cases. If so, the court probably won't release it, and for good reasons. 
2. If the court does release some testimony, names and personally identifiable information will also be redacted. So it probably won't name names, in many cases. 
3. The FBI was NOT ordered by Trump to release any additional information that is in the possession of the DOJ/FBI but is NOT included in the Grand Jury testimony.  The DOJ/FBI are Executive Branch agencies and Trump could easily have ordered them to do that and it would not be subject to court approval.  But he didn't do that.

So the net result is to create the appearance of wanting to release information to the public about the Epstein case, while not actually taking any voluntary action to do so independently that he could take and not releasing any information that is in the Grand Jury testimony that the court doesn't approve of. When the court finally says in a month or two that they aren't going to allow release of any Grand Jury testimony or only heavily redacted information, Trump will say, "See, I tried to release information, but the court wouldn't let me. It's out of my hands." 

Trump is getting the Judicial Branch to first of all kick the can down the road for a few months and then tell him that he can't release the Grand Jury testimony. He's doing this so that his fingerprints won't be on that outcome. And when that happens, he will try to dismiss everyone who still wants to find out what happened as being part of an evil Democrat cabal. He's already setting the stage for that.

That's what this is about.
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"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(07-19-2025, 11:51 AM)EXETER Wrote: Actually, that's not exactly what happened.  Here's what Trump ordered:

"I have asked Attorney General Pam Bondi to produce any and all pertinent Grand Jury testimony, subject to Court approval,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post Thursday night.

Grand Jury testimony is the property of the court in which it was presented, which is under the authority of the Judicial Branch, NOT the Executive Branch.  So Trump asked AG Bondi to ask the Judicial Branch for permission to release testimony that the DOJ already has and presented to a Grand Jury.  So, a few things to recognize about this action:

1. As I understand it, some of the Grand Jury testimony is still relevant to ongoing investigations and/or cases. If so, the court probably won't release it, and for good reasons. 
2. If the court does release some testimony, names and personally identifiable information will also be redacted. So it probably won't name names, in many cases. 
3. The FBI was NOT ordered by Trump to release any additional information that is in the possession of the DOJ/FBI but is NOT included in the Grand Jury testimony.  The DOJ/FBI are Executive Branch agencies and Trump could easily have ordered them to do that and it would not be subject to court approval.  But he didn't do that.

So the net result is to create the appearance of wanting to release information to the public about the Epstein case, while not actually taking any voluntary action to do so independently that he could take and not releasing any information that is in the Grand Jury testimony that the court doesn't approve of. When the court finally says in a month or two that they aren't going to allow release of any Grand Jury testimony or only heavily redacted information, Trump will say, "See, I tried to release information, but the court wouldn't let me. It's out of my hands." 

Trump is getting the Judicial Branch to first of all kick the can down the road for a few months and then tell him that he can't release the Grand Jury testimony. He's doing this so that his fingerprints won't be on that outcome. And when that happens, he will try to dismiss everyone who still wants to find out what happened as being part of an evil Democrat cabal. He's already setting the stage for that.

That's what this is about.


The timing of this Epstein faux outrage isn’t a coincidence.
The left, media and deep state are manufacturing this Epstein “scandal”, labeling it “the biggest political scandal in the history of the world” to keep everyone’s attention off of the Russia Russia Russia evidence which just came out.
It is fascinating to watch some people fail to see it unfolding, especially considering just the recent history of the left’s dirty deeds to get Trump and stop
him from doing his elected job.
(07-19-2025, 12:28 PM)Vermilion Wrote: The timing of this Epstein faux outrage isn’t a coincidence.
The left, media and deep state are manufacturing this Epstein “scandal”, labeling it “the biggest political scandal in the history of the world” to keep everyone’s attention off of the Russia Russia Russia evidence which just came out.
It is fascinating to watch some people fail to see it unfolding, especially considering just the recent history of the left’s dirty deeds to get Trump and stop
him from doing his elected job.


No.  He promised to release this and is now backpedaling, obfuscating and deflecting.

Even some of his MAGA base aren't buying this.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
https://www.rawstory.com/
Quote:Attorney General Pam Bondi had nearly a decade to prosecute disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein during her tenure as Florida Attorney General between 2011 and 2019, but ultimately didn’t, a law professor told USA Today Saturday.
“The federal government and the state government, of course, are two different political entities, and both have the power to try the same person for the same crime, using their respective laws," said Robert Jarvis, Nova Southeastern University law professor. "Thus, Pam Bondi could have tried Epstein."

Pam Bondi doesn't appear to be very good at any of the jobs she's had so far?!?!



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(07-19-2025, 12:45 PM)Kurokage Wrote: https://www.rawstory.com/

Pam Bondi doesn't appear to be very good at any of the jobs she's had so far?!?!

About par for the course with Trump's lawyers?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(07-19-2025, 12:44 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: No.  He promised to release this and is now backpedaling, obfuscating and deflecting.

Even some of his MAGA base aren't buying this.



They released phase one.
There’s no client list.
Trump asked Bondi to ask the courts to release more info.
You get what you get and you don’t get upset.

Also, you should pay more attention to the Supreme Court wins Bondi and her team have been racking up.



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